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#11
Well, first it didn't take me nearly 3 months, but I'm not attacking you. Its just a bad mentality that many people have to get done as fast as possible, not really caring how they get there or how quality of a pilot they are. I think that we can agree on that.
#12
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Here, there and now here again
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I am in total agreement with 250/.65 on this one. It takes time to learn intricate items rather than trying to fill in the holes later. Why not learn and correlate the first time. That is my .02 cents, reduced for the economy, I believe it would be my .001207623 cents. Take care.
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 618
I clear demonstrated that I understand the information or I wouldn't have been signed off and passed the ride. we all had to spend the time learning the information it just that I decided to do quicker. My flight academy offered the same course that would have taken about 3 months to complete. why should I wait that long and pay twice for the same information that took 9 days.
The course isn't for everyone some people could handle that amount of information for 12 hours a day. I think this was good training since a 121 is the same format. Do you think ground school at a 121 is anything more then rote? Its funny when when the owner said the Riddle and comair guys are his worst students.
The course isn't for everyone some people could handle that amount of information for 12 hours a day. I think this was good training since a 121 is the same format. Do you think ground school at a 121 is anything more then rote? Its funny when when the owner said the Riddle and comair guys are his worst students.
#14
No, groundschool at 121 is nothing more than rote. Its sad.
And I hope your not insinuating that I couldn't handle that amount of information or that I came from those schools. However, you are right, its not for everyone. Some of us care about learning things right rather than learning things fast.
And I hope your not insinuating that I couldn't handle that amount of information or that I came from those schools. However, you are right, its not for everyone. Some of us care about learning things right rather than learning things fast.
#15
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 618
not insulting you. I know most people go that route and I did for all my other training. I'm just getting sick off the bashing on accelerated programs. The big flight academy's can be great and FBO training can be great as well. it all comes down to who your instructor is. the academy can provide you with great tools such as simulators computers a new planes. but if your only as good as your instructor can make you.
I personally like the fast program and wished I had done that from the begging. their were 8 of us and you reprted at 7-8 am and the lead instructors had a 8 hour day planned on the chalk board for us and they would pull 2 of out each time to go fly a few times a day. as soon as your flight was done you go right back into grounds school with the other and send 2 other back to the ramp for their flight. this type of training was great because you could see the training building on top each other to see the finish line. at 6pm you all went back to the motel and all studied till 12-1 am and went back and did it again. it really was the most in depth training I receive. it really was intense and i feel i learn better under the pressure. this is what 121 training is like and it will better prepare you for that. when you go to an airline you trow away 90% of what your learned. its a whole new playing field.
Bottom line is you can go to Riddle and be a great pilot or be a bad pilot. You can go to a FBO training and be good or bad and you can go to a accelerated program and be good or bad. it all comes down to how you learn and your instructor. I read the same gliem the same jeppesen manual and the same Airplane Flying Hand book and passed a 7 hour check ride which was very difficult. If you still have some training ahead of you give it a shoot you might really like it save some time and money. The big schools are charging to much these days for what you get.
When you go to a flight school and they don't provide a dedicated ground instructor I would run. if you rely on your flying instructor to get you up to speed on all the ground work you have a a40% chance that he will either know this information or cares enough to teach it to you. the accelerated program provided all the tools to get you to pass. so be ready and a positive attitude. the one's who didn't make had poor attitudes and weren't believers be cause they got lost or frustrated. Call Mike and talk to him he is a straight shooter he will tell you what type of commitment you need to make and the commitment they will provide. you need to work with each other to get it done.
I personally like the fast program and wished I had done that from the begging. their were 8 of us and you reprted at 7-8 am and the lead instructors had a 8 hour day planned on the chalk board for us and they would pull 2 of out each time to go fly a few times a day. as soon as your flight was done you go right back into grounds school with the other and send 2 other back to the ramp for their flight. this type of training was great because you could see the training building on top each other to see the finish line. at 6pm you all went back to the motel and all studied till 12-1 am and went back and did it again. it really was the most in depth training I receive. it really was intense and i feel i learn better under the pressure. this is what 121 training is like and it will better prepare you for that. when you go to an airline you trow away 90% of what your learned. its a whole new playing field.
Bottom line is you can go to Riddle and be a great pilot or be a bad pilot. You can go to a FBO training and be good or bad and you can go to a accelerated program and be good or bad. it all comes down to how you learn and your instructor. I read the same gliem the same jeppesen manual and the same Airplane Flying Hand book and passed a 7 hour check ride which was very difficult. If you still have some training ahead of you give it a shoot you might really like it save some time and money. The big schools are charging to much these days for what you get.
When you go to a flight school and they don't provide a dedicated ground instructor I would run. if you rely on your flying instructor to get you up to speed on all the ground work you have a a40% chance that he will either know this information or cares enough to teach it to you. the accelerated program provided all the tools to get you to pass. so be ready and a positive attitude. the one's who didn't make had poor attitudes and weren't believers be cause they got lost or frustrated. Call Mike and talk to him he is a straight shooter he will tell you what type of commitment you need to make and the commitment they will provide. you need to work with each other to get it done.
#16
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 618
one more thing. you can learn it right and fast you just need to be ready to learn. you got to come with all the written and hours complete. these are career CFI this is what they do for a living. they aren't looking for their hours to get out. some of the line instructors are their for the hours but the rest are all their to teach. if you don't pass a mock oral with the owner then you don't get signed off. and some didn't. and they don't use the same examiner. it can be anyone including FSDO.
When you go to an airline you learn in this same format and this will help prepare you for that type of environment. you will learn how to fly all over again in the simulators. all that flight training is elementary at that point. only your stick and rudder skills is what you need. all new rule and regulations being presented and a very fast rate.
Where has Alaska been anyways isn't this his thread?
When you go to an airline you learn in this same format and this will help prepare you for that type of environment. you will learn how to fly all over again in the simulators. all that flight training is elementary at that point. only your stick and rudder skills is what you need. all new rule and regulations being presented and a very fast rate.
Where has Alaska been anyways isn't this his thread?
#17
stbloc, thanks for the info. I already know the old accelerated vs "normal" approach argument. Seems like it can be a good thing if you find the right school.
BTW, I've been away for a bit hanging nets for commercial fishing coming up here in a week or so. Was up until 2 a.m. or so the last couple of nights working on the nets.
BTW, I've been away for a bit hanging nets for commercial fishing coming up here in a week or so. Was up until 2 a.m. or so the last couple of nights working on the nets.
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