Gulfstream Training Academy
06-10-2009, 07:35 PM
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In the past two years, I went to a certain flight school that will remain nameless for the current time. We flew particularly new aircraft in which I completed my private pilot and my instrument rating. This program was similar in terms to Gulfstream and I felt I had to remove myself from the program. Why? This flight school's solo time requirements for private pilot was cut in half of the part 61 minimum is 10.0 hours. Also, these solo flights were limited to private pilot operations only and had no solo flights during my instrument rating. I tried getting more pic hours because personally felt I needed more solo experience prior to taking my checkride with the DPE but was denied. I am also told that late in the training (comm) that some solo time is granted as "supervised solo time."
I know college programs it is particularly common, but not to the extent that I had experienced and although that minimum there many well exceed that particular number. I have a degree in business and know that cutting costs are important, but the only thing I can think of for the FAA to allow these flight schools to lower required times is because of insurance. But if these flight schools taught these students well enough, then why dont they have confidence in us as pilots?
Any thoughts on why these should be continued if the FAA is cracking down on training?
I know college programs it is particularly common, but not to the extent that I had experienced and although that minimum there many well exceed that particular number. I have a degree in business and know that cutting costs are important, but the only thing I can think of for the FAA to allow these flight schools to lower required times is because of insurance. But if these flight schools taught these students well enough, then why dont they have confidence in us as pilots?
Any thoughts on why these should be continued if the FAA is cracking down on training?
06-10-2009, 08:21 PM
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In the past two years, I went to a certain flight school that will remain nameless for the current time. We flew particularly new aircraft in which I completed my private pilot and my instrument rating. This program was similar in terms to Gulfstream and I felt I had to remove myself from the program. Why? This flight school's solo time requirements for private pilot was cut in half of the part 61 minimum is 10.0 hours. Also, these solo flights were limited to private pilot operations only and had no solo flights during my instrument rating. I tried getting more pic hours because personally felt I needed more solo experience prior to taking my checkride with the DPE but was denied. I am also told that late in the training (comm) that some solo time is granted as "supervised solo time."
I know college programs it is particularly common, but not to the extent that I had experienced and although that minimum there many well exceed that particular number. I have a degree in business and know that cutting costs are important, but the only thing I can think of for the FAA to allow these flight schools to lower required times is because of insurance. But if these flight schools taught these students well enough, then why dont they have confidence in us as pilots?
Any thoughts on why these should be continued if the FAA is cracking down on training?
I know college programs it is particularly common, but not to the extent that I had experienced and although that minimum there many well exceed that particular number. I have a degree in business and know that cutting costs are important, but the only thing I can think of for the FAA to allow these flight schools to lower required times is because of insurance. But if these flight schools taught these students well enough, then why dont they have confidence in us as pilots?
Any thoughts on why these should be continued if the FAA is cracking down on training?
I attended ERAU to get my private and as far as I know, they do not allow people to rent aircraft to fly PIC without their private. The FAA allows students to fly PIC as long as the CFI signs these students off as far as I know. I don't know if its an insurance issue but I think its up to the school if they want to let students rent aircraft for their own pleasure.
and as far as I know "supervised solo" is bull. As long as there is no instructor next to you and you are PIC then its PIC time.
If you are talking about the school not letting you rent their planes even if you have a private then I don't see why they wouldn't let you rent them. They don't trust their own students? That doesn't sound very reasonable.
06-10-2009, 08:33 PM
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He is that, I have flown with him and he has flown with me. Thing has always been there are a few of us, he is a good representation, of us (Vets) that work here, and that is why I tell people to quit knocking GIA, we have some very good professional pilots here. Ill trust Him at the controls any day over some on here...The public is just as safe on 3M as any regional aircraft. When the industry breaks and He upgrades Ill bid a line with him anyday...Now im not saying that GIA hasnt had some of the same problems that other regionals have had, hence the 1.3 mil fine, but hopefully that will entice management to do some house cleaning and we can get back to business..
06-11-2009, 07:45 AM
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This is news to me.
I attended ERAU to get my private and as far as I know, they do not allow people to rent aircraft to fly PIC without their private. The FAA allows students to fly PIC as long as the CFI signs these students off as far as I know. I don't know if its an insurance issue but I think its up to the school if they want to let students rent aircraft for their own pleasure.
and as far as I know "supervised solo" is bull. As long as there is no instructor next to you and you are PIC then its PIC time.
If you are talking about the school not letting you rent their planes even if you have a private then I don't see why they wouldn't let you rent them. They don't trust their own students? That doesn't sound very reasonable.
I attended ERAU to get my private and as far as I know, they do not allow people to rent aircraft to fly PIC without their private. The FAA allows students to fly PIC as long as the CFI signs these students off as far as I know. I don't know if its an insurance issue but I think its up to the school if they want to let students rent aircraft for their own pleasure.
and as far as I know "supervised solo" is bull. As long as there is no instructor next to you and you are PIC then its PIC time.
If you are talking about the school not letting you rent their planes even if you have a private then I don't see why they wouldn't let you rent them. They don't trust their own students? That doesn't sound very reasonable.
On another note, the school has never let students rent planes at all.
06-17-2009, 05:33 AM
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There are some yes, I did not because I had used most of it toward a degree back in the early 90's, plus I was outside the 10 year window, but my sim partner back in the academy used his, and got most of his training paid for by the VA.
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