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Old 03-26-2009, 07:16 AM
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Any 141 Check Airmen? If so, can you guys PM me some typical questions you might ask on Stage I and II checks on a Jeppesen syllabus?
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Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:28 AM
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I do not do the 141 checks at my school but I know point for point what is on them. It's public knowledge at the school. Your question is too narrow being limited to Jeppeson, and every Part 141 charter is approved on an individual basis by a FSDO so the only way you can be sure to get a good answer is to contact someone who does the checks for your school. They will be willing to help- it isn't a secret what's on them.
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Yeah, I understand all that, as I'm getting "promoted" to check airman at my school... However we have no "question bank." There are just topics that must be discussed and it has always been up to the instructor to come up with the questions that cover that particular topic. (weather, performance, airspace, aeromedical, etc.) I'm very aware of the questions that previous guys have asked, but I want to mix things up a bit... Throw in a couple dynamic questions vs. the same old ones that everyone's gouged up on.

I guess it doesn't have to be specifically based on the Jepp. Private Pilot syllabus... maybe questions that people ask on BFR's.. ? Or just good questions in general that you would ask a pre-solo student who is getting ready to solo the first time. Something other then the same old rote questions.
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PRE-SOLO PROG CHECK

MANEUVERS
(alt +/- 200; heading +/- 15; a/s +10 airwork,
+10/-5 for landings; touchdown pt.+400,
no assistance from check pilot during landing)


normal or x-wind takeoffs & landings
go arounds
steep turns
slow flight
power off stalls (approach config. about 65 kts; turning & not)
power on stalls (departure config. about 55 kts; turning & not)
climbs, turns, descents (IR)
straight and level for 2 min. (IR)
emergency descent, approach, & landing
emergency procedures

preflight
systems ops
system malfunctions
engine starting
radios
taxiing
before takeoff check
collision avoidance
traffic patterns
wake turb avoidance
spin recovery acronym
W&B for current flight
Student Pilot Certificate (Medical)
Single Engine Written Exam for 172S
FSS (1-800-WX-BRIEF) briefing on the WX and notams for the area
Required equipment/documents for VFR operations
VFR weather minimums for the area
Club student pilot weather minimums
METAR and TAF decoding
Determining crosswind component
Determining airworthiness
Weight and balance calculations
Airport markings
Wake turbulence avoidance
PTS for the maneuvers to be performed
Aircraft limitations
Emergency Operations
Basic aircraft systems
IMSAFE/aeromedical factors

Automation Management (demonstrated understanding of the following)
Autopilot engage/disengage/emer procedures
Identification of all alerting tones and chimes
Direct-to
Wind information (wind vectors, ground track bug and vector)
Traffic awareness
MFD set-up and overlays
Emergency frequency tuning using toggle key

PROG CHECK 2

All elements of prog 1
Obtaining and interpreting a flight briefing
Filing, opening, closing of a VFR flight plan
VFR cross-country flight planning
Making a well-informed go/no-go decision
Interpreting VFR sectionals/Understanding of flight information publications
Airspace
VOR navigation
Interpreting performance charts (to include landing and takeoff charts)
Autopilot/G1000 usage
Lost procedures
Equipment requirements for night VFR
Automation Management (demonstrated understanding of the following)
All elements of prog 1
Autopilot/FD – PIT, ROL, VS, ALT, FLC, NAV, HDG modes
FPL building
Nearest softkey/page group
XM WX information
Waypoint page one

PROG CHECK 3

All elements of progs 1 and 2
Aircraft systems
Recency of experience
Privileges/restrictions for private pilots
Automation Management
All elements of progs 1 and 2
G1000 related abnormalities
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(Obviously) This list is based around a G1000 Skyhawk and your mileage may vary.
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What questions would you ask your student so that you'd feel comfortable with their level of knowledge to take the test with someone else?

I'm sure you've quizzed your students before. Ask those questions. Remember, they've already got the rote memorization out of the way on the written exam.

Your questions as a check instructor should not be from a question bank because if you're asking the right questions, every exam will be a little bit different. I like to let the student start and dictate where the questions go.

"So, explain to me where you got this performance number from"
"Well, I found the chart with the correct density altitude and..."
"How do you know the density altitude today?"
"Well, I looked at the METAR to get the pressure setting first"
"Ok, can you read that METAR for me?"
"Great, so you used that to figure out the density altitude and eventually the peformance number?"


I dont know, that was just off the top of my head, but each student will lead themselves down a different rabbit hole. When you as a check instructor believe you guys have gone down that hole far enough, start a different hole. If a student get stuck and can't dig any further and you want more, start another hole that you thing will lead to the answer you want.

I think its your job to lead the discussion, not just ask questions off a sheet.
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Depends on what course..... i.e. Private syllabus stage I, just ask about the a/c, regs (medical classes and durations, what can a student pilot do/not do), theory of flight, stage II if i remember begins cross country, regs concerning that, airspace, sectionals and symbology. If its the instrument course, stage I, regs, instruments, get the idea.
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
What questions would you ask your student so that you'd feel comfortable with their level of knowledge to take the test with someone else?

I'm sure you've quizzed your students before. Ask those questions. Remember, they've already got the rote memorization out of the way on the written exam.

Your questions as a check instructor should not be from a question bank because if you're asking the right questions, every exam will be a little bit different. I like to let the student start and dictate where the questions go.

"So, explain to me where you got this performance number from"
"Well, I found the chart with the correct density altitude and..."
"How do you know the density altitude today?"
"Well, I looked at the METAR to get the pressure setting first"
"Ok, can you read that METAR for me?"
"Great, so you used that to figure out the density altitude and eventually the peformance number?"


I dont know, that was just off the top of my head, but each student will lead themselves down a different rabbit hole. When you as a check instructor believe you guys have gone down that hole far enough, start a different hole. If a student get stuck and can't dig any further and you want more, start another hole that you thing will lead to the answer you want.

I think its your job to lead the discussion, not just ask questions off a sheet.
I wholeheartedly agree!


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