Flight Schools
12-13-2006, 06:57 AM
#41
Need More Flight Time!
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Flight Simulator X
Posts: 400
Just because you have 250 hours and a MD-90 type does not mean you have the ability to be a Capt. on any Jet out there today.
Sorry man... The reason airlines look for people with actual flight time is because that flight time means experience. All of you looking for the quick route should think about going out and getting some.
Sorry man... The reason airlines look for people with actual flight time is because that flight time means experience. All of you looking for the quick route should think about going out and getting some.
12-13-2006, 07:21 AM
#42
Need More Flight Time!
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Flight Simulator X
Posts: 400
This post is for the guys with no flight time and trying to go to school to become a pilot ie CAPT program or RAA etc.
These guys are ragging you for wanting to go to these programs saying you won't have the experience for the major or you'll be dangerous. I say to them who is defending your country in multi million dollar aircraft 24 year olds. Flying everything from F-18's to C-17's. Hmm I bet they don't have 5000 flight hours in fact I know they don't.
These guys are ragging you for wanting to go to these programs saying you won't have the experience for the major or you'll be dangerous. I say to them who is defending your country in multi million dollar aircraft 24 year olds. Flying everything from F-18's to C-17's. Hmm I bet they don't have 5000 flight hours in fact I know they don't.
So those brave souls up there with low time defending our country do so in high price tag tactical aircraft are there because they deserve to be there with their top shelf training. I can't say the same for what CAPT is peddilng. All I know is that when I was there, there was a lot of down time, mismanagement, messed up scheduling, and a generic training course outline that you can find off of any shelf at any pilot shop. It's not like you learned so much about ADM or CRM that made you so awesome. You can get more ADM and CRM by watching Air Emergency and Seconds From Disaster on the National Geographic channel...and best of all, you only pay a small cable fee instead of an outrageous fee that CAPT charges.
As they say, there are more than one way to skin a cat (flight training in this case). CAPT is the more expensive way of doing it.
12-13-2006, 08:51 PM
#43
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 614
Okay so this thread was started and has been added on to by quite a few newbies and your inexperience in the industry is shinning through. Sit back, drink some kool aid and get ready for some real cold hard information.
First lets address the whole flight academy/riddle/RAA: They through a lot of "facts" out that may or may not be true. Some of them are correct, only vastly spun to appear to be something magical. The people who feed you this information are from the recruiting office, and believe it or not they are RECRUITERS, who work on commission, and will tell you anything you want to hear. What they fail to tell you is about the very small subject group they are talking about. There are FAR more UND grads and Perdue grads and so forth at the airlines than there are RAA grads, and they got hired with low if not lower minimums than the RAA guys got. So in closing they dont tell you what other schools are doing, because they probably dont want you to know.
Go get another glass of kool aid, more to come.......I need to find some comparative numbers
First lets address the whole flight academy/riddle/RAA: They through a lot of "facts" out that may or may not be true. Some of them are correct, only vastly spun to appear to be something magical. The people who feed you this information are from the recruiting office, and believe it or not they are RECRUITERS, who work on commission, and will tell you anything you want to hear. What they fail to tell you is about the very small subject group they are talking about. There are FAR more UND grads and Perdue grads and so forth at the airlines than there are RAA grads, and they got hired with low if not lower minimums than the RAA guys got. So in closing they dont tell you what other schools are doing, because they probably dont want you to know.
Go get another glass of kool aid, more to come.......I need to find some comparative numbers
08-28-2007, 04:57 PM
#45
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What is your response if a 250 hour "wonder" flies better in sim training than a 5000 hour "quality" pilot? What phenomenon causes that? I agree there is no shortcut to gaining experience. But I also believe one person can gain better skills in the same experience if they started with a better foundation. Learning to fly a CRJ having only flown Cessna's is tough. Learning to fly a CRJ with an MD-90 type rating eases the load making it easier to learn at a quicker rate. There are a lot of things missed with the lack of experience, just as there are a lot of things missed with a lack of exposure. This is how I look at it. You take a guy that's been flying his Cessna around for his whole life, say he has 25,000 hours in that thing. Put him into a 737 on the takeoff roll and give him an engine out just after rotation. What's he gonna do? Do the same to someone type rated in a DC-9. What's he gonna do? They're going to react differently. I would argue the guy with the DC-9 type is going to take off safely and the Cessna pilot may or may not. Now, please tell me the flaws in that argument, I'm sure there are some. I understand people's reservations when they hear of 250 hour pilots flying right seat on a CRJ, but to say that they don't belong and they can't do it I think is too bold. Especially considering there are people doing it right now.
Your argument is weak. First of all losing an engine on takeoff roll just before rotation is what we in the airlines call "V1 cuts" and you will do a thousand of them. Airline training is so both the "25,000 hour Cessna pilot" and the DC-9 type will react the exact same way in an emergency. This again is what we in the airlines call "standardization."
The 250 hour pilot is dangerous. Why? It is not because the mearly have 250 hours but most think they know what they are doing, and that is what makes them dangerous. 250 hours is the bare minimum for a part 61 Comm. license.
Like it or not, there still is no subsitute for experience.
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