Top Six Reasons not to go to the Delta Connection Academy.
#12
While--as a former DCA guy--I certainly don't disagree with any of OP's points, here we have an expired horse laying on an out-of-warranty turntable that was thoroughly covered in last month's broadsheet.
#13
Flight schools that rent wet tend to factor a full rich (nonsense) setting the duration of the flight with a surcharge as well, the reason most flight schools have the full-rich below 3k, is they believe it will relieve mx costs long term. Proper fuel leaning to LOP will use less fuel and less mx long term (as the ICP is lower). Most people in FL don't understand that running full rich on take-off is generally decreasing performace. A dry price with an instructor who cares serves better and lets the renter learn something about LOP power. Dry rental costs (incl mx, insurance, hangar fees, etc) without instructor on a '04 172sp non g1000 is only around $40/hr max, up charge by $40/hr, $20/hr instructor (to the instructor) + fuel = $140/hr to rent a 172.
Far too many think that the mixture control has two settings—Idle/Cut Off and Full Rich. I've flown with too many certificated pilots who don't know what the red knob is for...or anything else about their engines—other than they take aviation gasoline (most of them) and make noises.
#14
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
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I am flying for a regional now, but still maintain contact with DCA. They are paying me 20 an hour for non-CFI and 25 for CFI stage check orals. Unless something has changed this week, your information might be outdated...
#15
2005: Back when I instructed (while still on AD in the Navy)... I was paid in cash for my CFI time @ $35 for 91, and @ $40 for 141 students. Every bit of it was take home. Each instructor was a state licensed independent contractor, and set their own pay rate - among the 5 FBO's on the ramp the rate was identical.
Another great reason why not to use those stupid academies. What could they possibly use for their sales pitch now? XJT hasn't hired in over a year, and even Mesa is done training.
"Guaranteed Interview"....in India
Another great reason why not to use those stupid academies. What could they possibly use for their sales pitch now? XJT hasn't hired in over a year, and even Mesa is done training.
"Guaranteed Interview"....in India
#16
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2005: Back when I instructed (while still on AD in the Navy)... I was paid in cash for my CFI time @ $35 for 91, and @ $40 for 141 students. Every bit of it was take home. Each instructor was a state licensed independent contractor, and set their own pay rate - among the 5 FBO's on the ramp the rate was identical.
Another great reason why not to use those stupid academies. What could they possibly use for their sales pitch now? XJT hasn't hired in over a year, and even Mesa is done training.
"Guaranteed Interview"....in India
Another great reason why not to use those stupid academies. What could they possibly use for their sales pitch now? XJT hasn't hired in over a year, and even Mesa is done training.
"Guaranteed Interview"....in India
Sarcasm apart... the CFI pay will have to improve in a few years. The "pilot shortage" is still coming and the next hiring cycle, when it hits, will absolutely kill the flight schools that do not hire and treat CFI's as professionals.
I am going to leave it at that....
#17
Sad, had a bro go there 15 years ago, seems nothing has changed. They lie and cheat folks. Sad, sad. I really dislike there business model. Makes my blood boil, welcome to the professional flying world. DCA is a blight.
#18
Not to pour gas on the fire......but what did you expect. I think you went in with your eyes closed and they are starting to open to the other possibilities that were our there. Sounds like flashy ads and brand new airplanes lured another student into paying much more for less than they could have had in a variety of other places.
#19
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
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Sarcasm apart... the CFI pay will have to improve in a few years. The "pilot shortage" is still coming and the next hiring cycle, when it hits, will absolutely kill the flight schools that do not hire and treat CFI's as professionals.
I am going to leave it at that....
I am going to leave it at that....
Hello Planediveguy! I think I know who you are...you gave me plenty of advice while I attended DCA (Jan 06-Nov 07). Hope all is well at your regional these days. I'm in the 'pool' swimming at ASA for now. There's a possibility that I might go back to instructing in gunships for a while until this industry sorts itself out again.
#20
I went to DCA, I know Jeremy (OP) even saw him on a crew van not to long ago. I agree with everything he says. What he didn't mention, and what I haven't seen here, are two things. One, a 141 environment encourages the student to be fully immersed in aviation, go to any bar in Sanford you'll see what I mean. You just don't get that at your local fbo. You don't get introduced to airline style manuals, uniforms, scheduling, etc. either. Two, you def. don't get standardized instruction. With a few exceptions the quality of instruction is excellent at DCA, Jeremy was a great example. I didn't rely on them to get the airline, I got a good aviation foundation there and left. Trust me on this, work hard and you'll pay less! There are a million different ways to get to the airlines, DCA was just a piece of the puzzle for me.
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