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Old 07-21-2008, 02:08 PM
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Does anyone know whether ATP is hiring non-ACPP instructors? I know they have done this off and on in the past.

I guess it would depend on how their enrollment is doing. I visit their prospective student website, and the activity seems lower, although some of the "coaches" are saying that the regionals should be hiring again by the end of the year...
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:55 PM
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Take this for what its worth as 2nd hand info, but a ACPP student I spoke to earlier today told me that he was told there were no open positions. It just occurred to me though, that I should have asked him if that was across the board, or if he had requested a specific location, and that location was unavailable.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:54 AM
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I applied to multiple locations and couldnt even get HR to call me back
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CFI/II/MEI 2+ years
800 hrs dual
1000 hrs total
450 hrs multi (~400 of that dual given in a twin)
300 hrs simulator instructor

Same thing goes with DCA.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:21 AM
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I am a flight instructor for ATP and we are still hiring instructors. From what I understand we are still hiring instructors off the street and students from ATP that have completed the program. Although I would imagine that if things get tight ATP will only hire students that have completed the program. If you used to work for ATP and moved on then you are no longer going to be rehired. Hope this helps fellas.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:15 AM
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ya i know that they stopped west coast hiring i believe they may still be having a few people go to the real busy locations such as jacksonville, phoenix, or dallas... atp is definitely slow from their price increase i have seen way less students around here...
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:07 PM
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So is flight training this slow for everyone? It's so slow at my school they cut rental rates by 25%, even though they are taking a loss with high fuel prices, to try to increase the number of students coming in the door. A few recreational flyers seem to be flying more as a result, but students are still few and far between.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:33 PM
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Funny.. I was going through some old mags... one AOPA Flight Training from 2004 or 2005.. the ATP "Career pilot program" was only like $30k... now it's like $57k for 200hrs (50 of which are FTD, 10 are single) plus $3500 checkrides... wow!
They are not losing money by the way. People pay average about $300/hr for the multi.... x 2 people per multi = $600/hr for the seminole. Even cut by 25% that's still making money.
Also how exactly do 3 people log PIC in one airplane at the same time?
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And they're still lining up to pay that! (Well, not really pay, but go into debt). I don't know if their enrollment is down, but I browse their prospective student site and people are still talking about confirming start dates months in the future.
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:12 PM
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If you are interested in FL, the CAPT program (another overpriced, yet busy program) is hiring... they pay somewhere around $16-17/hr fly Cirrus SR20 and Seminoles and will pay for your MEI if you stay for a year. Only catch is your students are from china (160,mostly right now) and they aren't so sharp on english... so if you happen to be flying around flagler it sounds like you walked into Wok n Roll! coincidently after the new students came, they took the wheel pants off of the cirrus'.. they look really weird now

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I applied to ATP about 3 weeks ago...i have about 1300TT and 900DG and 2+ yr CFI/II/MEI...I talked to the chief pilot and he seemed like he really wanted to hire me, then he called me back and said they can only hire ATP grads...guess they would rather have people with 2-300tt and 0 DG teaching there...
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