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Old 08-03-2008, 05:41 PM
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regardless of where you go to school, what you pay (as it is only your choice) you all will probably learn the same things needed to pass checkrides, some procedures and stuff might be slightly different... but once you start flying for a living you'll condense what you've learned at the expensive school into pretty much the same thing all of your co-workers know that went to various priced schools. In the end, it really doesn't matter where you went you'll fly the plane just like the guy next to you.. the only difference will be the monthly loan payments vs. income.
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Originally Posted by The Juice
No, left that hell hole over a year ago when I got on with an airline.
haha nice I did the same, hell i was teaching in IAC. That sucked... trying to explain aviation to someone who could barely speak english. I spent so much time on ground work but it paied off... they passed.
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Originally Posted by daniel0265
haha nice I did the same, hell i was teaching in IAC. That sucked... trying to explain aviation to someone who could barely speak english. I spent so much time on ground work but it paied off... they passed.
I'm having a hard time figuring out the reason for the extra "e" in paid? Is this a new addition to English?
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Old 08-03-2008, 07:20 PM
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I'm having a hard time figuring out the reason for the extra "e" in paid? Is this a new addition to English?
damn... haha I guess so... my bad. better read what i am typing.
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Old 08-08-2008, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by planediveguy
Hey man!

That's not fair! Just because I did not buy your lunch!!!! (lol)

See ya at Wings and @$$es soon buddy...
No worries.

You should know I don't hide my feelings about that place. Unfortunately you seem to agree with the way things work there. Sad.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel0265
Dude, I have friends in your standz department and line instructors. I just left there as an instructor last year. You cannot be that far into ALL your ratings if you say you have not broken atleast the 60K marker. Cost for me was 75K starting at inst - CFI, PVT was at another place. This was the price I paied before it turned to a cirrus fleet, where an CFII ADD-On was quoted already at close to 7gs and no one in my class spent uner 9gs for it. Last time I had coffee with my buddies their they told me the cost has gone up over all. Now I am not saing it is not worth it, after all I drive an CRJ now but don't say DCA doesnt cost as much as these ppl say it does. At the end of the day, anyone who goes through the progam will pay out ATLEAST 75K Pvt-MEI (under old program) and that would be if you are a superstar.

Hi Daniel...good to see you again. Hope all is well in your new job.

When I left DCA last year, I spent just shy of $12,000.00 to complete the CFII course in the new Cirrus SR20's. I loved flying the airplanes, but would never have taken the CFII course at DCA had I known that it would have cost so much. Our class was given a quote of $6,995.00 for the course. Sure...wx, maint., CFII shortages, and scheduling conflicts tend to drag out the training process -but I believe that the true cost overruns were a result of a change in training philosophy.

During my time at DCA, I put forth much effort into my training...and I achieved a high level of learning as a result. Expensive?? VERY.... Am I saddled with high debt?? You bet I am... Was it worth it?? Too soon to know since I'm still 'swimming' in the hiring pool at ASA right now. Bottom line...there are a thousand different ways to get into an airline job -this is just my way. At the end of the day, if we're fortunate enough, we'll all be sitting in the same seat, earning the same salary, doing the same profession that we all want to do -regardless of the path traveled to get there.
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:01 AM
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a little off topic here but what is DCA's policy on new hire CFIs without a CFII? Go pay for your II before you work for us? Any assistance at all? saw an ad for them hiring somewhere and was curious
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I was happy with my experience at DCA in SFB but I was smart enough to leave after my CFI. DCA has self examining authority for CFI candidates and that was why I was willing to pay the premium. The instruction was top notch and the aircraft may have been a little rough around the edges but they got the job done. I feel like it was an excellent foundation for the rest of my career. It felt ridiculous at the time to have to carry around a bunch of manuals and wear a uniform to fly Cessna's and Pipers but it was hardly a transition to see the manuals at my 121 carrier formatted EXACTLY the same way. I did my CFII and MEI part 61 and earned twice as much teaching at an FBO than i would have with DCA. The one huge thing you must remember is the guaranteed interview is complete BS. You dont need them they need you, the school loves to hang it over your head. As I see it the major benefit they offer is they will train you as an airline pilot from day one....
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Originally Posted by stefanc
Couple weeks ago I talked to the guy from DCA. And i got a brochure. And the costs are:

Private and Instrument: 25672.50
Upset Recovery Course: 3195.00
Commercial Multi-Engine: 18088.25
High Altitude Training: 500.00
Commercial Single Engine Add-on: 4803.00
CFI Rating: 8339.00

Total 60597.75

Plus CFII RATING: 6603.25

Plus: MEI ( MULTI ENGINE INSTRUCTOR): 4986.50

Plus FUEL SURCHARGES

THE REAL COST OF TRAINING = 72187.5 (WITHOUT FUEL SURCHARGES)
PLUS FOR HOUSING ANOTHER 8000= 80187.5 DOLLARS
AND THEY SAY TAKE THE LOAN OUT FOR 20% MORE.

THEN THE REAL TOTAL WITH FOOD AND OTHER NECCESARIES IS AROUND 100,000 DOLLARS.

WHO WANTS TO GO THERE?
I go to DCA. I started in March as a bright eyed kid who was sick of going to state school. I'm almost done with my Private and Instrument Rating. Currently I'm debating whether I want to stay for Commercial and Multiengine. There is no way in hell I'm working for them. The instructors for the most part don't care and the administrators are smug to the point of almost being comical. In short, I regret moving across the country to live in overpriced housing with a total and complete slob.
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