200SR20

I paid for PVT/INS in under 5 months a little under 25k... Commercial price came down because we only get about 20hrs in the Seminole. Commercial is only 30 lessons 15 in a single engine and 15 in the seminole. I have no idea how you spent 75k for only your INS-CFI thats beyond me. Commercial for me is looking like no more than 14-15k. O and 5 lessons for single add on of maybe 2k. I enjoy going there

USMC3197

Standz told me that the new program in the cirrus is a pvt/inst course. about 60 lessons. They told me students have been spending about or for some, a little more then we did when we went through. (by WE I didn't mean you) The Camel course is 29 lessons and 5 more lessons for single add-on. That I agree is better in some ways than the old program as far as lessons are concerned but those 29 lessons at the multi price ouch. With the multi at about (if not more) then $200 an hr with inst. and 2hrs per lesson average, that alone is $11,500 before groundschool. When I was at DCA, ground school was $34p/hr 8hrs a day for 2 weeks comes to about $2700.(some courses it is 3 weeks) Take the single into account now you are looking at about a total of 20-25K (15-20K for multi). That for you means your ontrack for 50K before CFI/CFII/MEI. Your new program at DCA is not cheaper, ask any CFI at DCA and they will tell you that. I and many friends of mine that are teaching there and at the airlines know this. This is just a reality check. Don't base your end of day spendings in commercial if you are not over 2/3 done yet. Early lessons generally cost less but later lessons start getting longer, I imagine you already know this since you got two tickets there. CFI has a crap load of briefs in it too, though I heard the new program has reduced it a little. (thats good for you too) CFI also have to have atleast 40hrs of dual if i remember right.

Here is about what I paied (I was pretty average, no super star)
Pvt = didn't get at DCA
started inst. with 45hrs
inst. = 16K
Com single = 17K
com multi = 13K
CFI = 18K
Ened CFI with a total about 220hrs
CFII = only did ground school and 5 lessons and it costed me 5G

These where my rough est. costs not exact and Im too lazy to add them together to see how lose to 75K but I know I was in that ball park. My opinion on what makes DCA really costly is the groundschools. If you end up under even 70K at DCA that is totally kewl and good for you. I hope it is true for you, don't like to see people with a debt like and greater than mine. Training at DCA I agree is GREAT also, helped me a lot on my interview with ASA. The DCA profiles are much likes the ones at ASA also and that helped me in training. I won't say DCA is not worth it, I just want to push the issue that it does cost a lot.

cfii2007

$9000 for a CFII add on??????????????????????????????????

USMC3197

yeah man that was why I left (every one in my class was spending just around 10gs). I was hired as a CFI and DCA because they had something like a 4 month gap before they can start that CFII course in the cirrus. I was in the 1st CFII class in the cirrus, less than 50% of us stayed there once we noticed how much more it was going to cost VS doing it in the 172. I think there is a OLD thread about it somewhere in this forum. Again, I am not saying that DCA is bad. I thought it was great training, just do lie about the price or be fooled. Personally, I thought it was worth it but CFII was the fine line. 10Gs for an add-on like that was just too steep and I just ran outta money. I was had just around 6gs left in my account when I started it because that was how much it used to be in the 172. So I was on target for 75K more or less but with that new price tag... yeah...

Maybe it is cheaper now, I don't know. I don't ask too many questions to my buddies about it. But last time we all went out and talked shop they told me that the new program OVERALL is costing students more then the told one. Makes sence since now they can't rent a 152 w/o inst for under $100. I do admit that the cirrus price per hr isn't bad for what it is. When I left it was $119 before fuel surcharge and inst. That was the same price as the arrow if i remember right. But still more than the 152/172 and also now Com multi comes 1st and that means that is your inital so means you have to put more hrs in the multi, thats more money. The old program you get single 1st and just do 15 or was it 25hrs in the multi for the add-on. (i forgot) But hr to hr plane to plane that was cheaper then the camel. You can take what I say with a grain of salt but that was how it was when I was there.

ryan1234

hope they threw in a millenium falcon type rating for that price...
I did my whole shabang pvt-comm multi for $17k total part 61

USMC3197

LOL nice punt! haha 17K!? damn that's kewl. How long ago was this? Cuz I don't think with current a/c rental prices 17K is even possible. Hell I don't even think it was possible 3yrs ago.

200SR20

Hey man... Naw I'm not sure what CFII is right now I have heard some of my friends getting it for 6-8 approx. but i'll cross that bridge when I get to it... CAMEL tho isn't to bad they lowered the price of ground school and there isn't a ground school for single add on anymore just 5 lessons.

ASA thats awesome... How's the company? Your based in ATL right, man thats my company I'm shooting for but I still have another year before I can even start getting excited.

USMC3197

ooo ok that's good news about the ground school then. I am just basing everthing on what it was when I was there. Closing in on 1yr since I left. Larry Wade knew that most of us was not going to Pay 10gs for CFII.

ASA is good, company is almost everything everyone told me it was going to be. With the new contract and everything I cannot complain much about it. I will stuck on Res for probubly another year but that ain't their fault, industry is just stagnet right now... what can ya do right? Ya ASA only has 1 base ATL, the commute there out of Orlando isn't as bad as everyone makes it sound.

cfii2007

Last time I checked the CFII at Sheble or ATPS was something like $2000......

I love it when flight academies (expensive ones) try to justify the 400% price difference from other schools because they "have higher standards."

SLpilot

You paid 18K for a CFI rating! holy smokes man. I hope they threw in some lap dances with that.