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Old 04-28-2008, 12:28 PM
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So i start ground school in a couple weeks and it will be 2 years since i got my commercial this june. should i get a bienniel done before ground school?
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So i start ground school in a couple weeks and it will be 2 years since i got my commercial this june. should i get a bienniel done before ground school?
Your PC at the end of training satisfies your BFR. Save your money...you'll need it.
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:39 PM
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Pretty sure your PC and Line check at the end of training satisfies your BFR.
k i was wondering, after reading the regs again that makes sense
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I've never gotten a BFR... I just keep getting new ratings

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Originally Posted by blastoff
Your PC at the end of training satisfies your BFR. Save your money...you'll need it.
I don't have the regs in front of me, but I'm not sure an SIC 121 checkride counts as a BFR if it is not a type ride. If you get a an SIC type out of it, then it would certainly count. If not, better read the regs carefully.

The problem is that BFR's and IFR currency are PIC-specific, IIRC

If you are concerned about the BFR for 121 flying...you do not need a BFR for that, you just need to complete the specified 121 initial and recurrent training.

If you need the BFR for GA flying, it will be better if you have a traditional one in writing. Clubs and FBO's may not buy into it otherwise. You can probably get your IOE check airman to sign your logbook for a regular 91 BFR...just make sure he is a CFI! If not, it doesn't count outside of 121 operations.
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I don't have the regs in front of me, but I'm not sure an SIC 121 checkride counts as a BFR if it is not a type ride. If you get a an SIC type out of it, then it would certainly count. If not, better read the regs carefully.

The problem is that BFR's and IFR currency are PIC-specific, IIRC

If you are concerned about the BFR for 121 flying...you do not need a BFR for that, you just need to complete the specified 121 initial and recurrent training.

If you need the BFR for GA flying, it will be better if you have a traditional one in writing. Clubs and FBO's may not buy into it otherwise. You can probably get your IOE check airman to sign your logbook for a regular 91 BFR...just make sure he is a CFI! If not, it doesn't count outside of 121 operations.
Doesn't specify SIC or PIC. If you're legal for 121, you should be legal for 91 (as long as you have your landing currency). If you're still nervous about it, call the FSDO before you fly.

If SIC isn't a rating, its certainly an operating privilege.

14 CFR 61.56

(d) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of this section, passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or a U.S. Armed Force, for a pilot certificate, rating, or operating privilege need not accomplish the flight review required by this section.
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I HAVE A CURRENT ICAO ATPL but not recent on my FAA CPL ME IR. I need a BFR COMBINED WITH INSTRUMENT CURRENCY. Any help where I can get this done cheaply.I also need to access a nearby FSDO to where I will train.Will appreciate a PM from anyone knowledgable. I have not used my FAA since 1997.

Which are generally the states that would be least expensive for training and accomodation?
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Originally Posted by Capt Abus
I HAVE A CURRENT ICAO ATPL but not recent on my FAA CPL ME IR. I need a BFR COMBINED WITH INSTRUMENT CURRENCY. Any help where I can get this done cheaply.I also need to access a nearby FSDO to where I will train.Will appreciate a PM from anyone knowledgable. I have not used my FAA since 1997.

Which are generally the states that would be least expensive for training and accomodation?
There are many places in the US to consider, literally thousands. The right answer probaby depends on where you're coming from...Europe, look to the Eastern US, Asia look to Western US.

Non-coastal states are typically cheaper than the coastal areas. Sheble and Prairie Air Service come to mind off the top of my head. You could also check out ATP flight schools...they have branches everywhere.
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I did a C500 SIC (part 91). FSDO said it did not count as a biennial because there was not check ride required. Had I asked, the instructor probably would have signed a biennial.
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I did a C500 SIC (part 91). FSDO said it did not count as a biennial because there was not check ride required. Had I asked, the instructor probably would have signed a biennial.
Same thing with CFI checkrides...since they are not checkrides for a PILOT certificate they don't count as a BFR. Just get the CFI to sign off a BFR when he signs you off for the checkride.
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