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Old 12-09-2007, 02:28 PM
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I am still a student pilot and the thing I have the hardest time with is x-wind landings. I can make them, but they are rough. I am almost finished with my private, but this skill is a must!! Any advice would be great!!!
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Old 12-09-2007, 02:48 PM
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What part is rough? Smoothness will come with time. If you find yourself getting squirrelly after touchdown don't forget your crosswind aileron correction (I had a hard time with that).
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:05 PM
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aileron correction is, for some reason hard for me to remember. And when I do remember I dont do it because for some reason I just feel like I am going to flip over or something. lol I also have a hard time being cross-controled. It just feels weird
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:07 PM
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Listen to ATIS, and put the heading bug on the direction of the wind so you can remember. Center the nose with rudder, wings into wind wil yoke. the rest is just like you land every other time. Keep the yoke in the same direction after you touch down and increase the amount of correction as you slow. If I encounter a guts where it lifts me at the last second, add just a pinch of power and pull it out quickly again. This will prevent a gust lifting you and then you touching down hard. Remember, putting the rudder in the oppsite direction lifts the oppsite wing too, so some of the work is already done for you.
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Remember aileron in x-winds is for side-shifting. The more aileron, the more opposite rudder will be required, or otherwise you will turn, defeating the purpose.

My set-up to really practice this is establish a 3-5nm final, or just use a road and keep some altitude. Work the ailerons, and rudder as to always maintain a parallel course to the rwy/road, but side-shift yourself left and right of course. Practice how much input you need to correct with varying winds and speeds. It will help build the feel for what it takes, just like landing flares! The rest is really just practicing, and having an instructor that's skilled enough to go take you out and do Max-Demonstrated x-wind practice. One of the best and unfortgettable lessons during my training!!!
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:33 PM
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I agree. I felt sorry for my instructor during the early stages of X-W's.
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:10 PM
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Cross control does feel wierd, but it works. The main thing is to point the nose down the runway with the rudder in the flare. As you do that, wing down into the wind. Just Do It.

You might drift a bit one way or the other if the wing down part isn't quite right. But if the nose is pointed down the runway when you touch down, you'll be fine. With experience, you'll learn to vary the wing down to correct for gust and drift.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:52 PM
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the whole point is to keep the airplanes momentum going straight down the runway

one thing that none of these guys have mentioned... when you keep your wing down into the wind, you'll obviously land on one wheel then the other... this is normal. just keep that wing down as you flare, it wont be as smooth as a perfect headwind, but with practice you can get pretty close.

ask your instructor to take you up and just practice slips in a non-landing environment... cross-control and try to keep your heading.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:38 PM
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I by no means have it perfected but I really had aileron correction after touchdown hammered in to my skull one day. My instructor and I were out at the practice area on a windy day and by the time we returned home the winds had shifted to the point that we had to use our home airport's intersecting runway. It isn't the smallest runway in the world but it is pretty dang narrow. I had a pretty good crosswind correction in on final and everything was going smoothly until I got to the flare. The hangars around the runway caused a bit of an eddie over the runway that really surprised me (Lesson number one) and once I flared and touched down I completely lapsed on the aileron correction. The plane weather vaned on one wheel enough to really scare the crap out of me and cause me to abruptly throw the aileron correction in, settling the aircraft down. That's all it took for me to remind myself every time I land to correct for the crosswind with ailerons upon touchdown.

Props to my instructor for sitting back and letting me scare the crap out of myself without freaking our or taking the controls! It really drove the lesson home
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:12 PM
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Flying a Cessna on a 10 kt crosswind was enough to teach me to fly until the plane stops. I trained and instruct in Diamonds so they are much more forgiving (low wings). But that day, I felt the wing lift after we had landed and I've never forgotten to keep aileron control at all times.
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