Starting to reconsider.........
11-18-2007, 06:06 PM
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Naw cuz...you're wrong. I live in WPB, FL. Awaiting for my med certificate to arrive from FAA/Oklahoma City. It was deferred by local AME, but he supported me in being award my med cert.
I had anticipated on having it by now, but I called their office on Thursday and the rep told me that the doctor has a HUGE case load. I don't feel like the Lone Ranger anymore.
Just planning for war in a time of peace. I want to have continuity in my training. No problems or at least limit them. No drama.
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I had anticipated on having it by now, but I called their office on Thursday and the rep told me that the doctor has a HUGE case load. I don't feel like the Lone Ranger anymore.
Just planning for war in a time of peace. I want to have continuity in my training. No problems or at least limit them. No drama.
atp
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11-19-2007, 03:21 AM
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No. It was a conclusion drawn when looking at the number of "students" placed with the airlines in a given time period. I've looked at not only ATP's, but DCA's, FSA, and RAA.
I guess I should have found out what is the percentage of students that are placed with the airline with respect to the total number of students attending the facility.
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11-19-2007, 05:22 AM
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Atp, if I were you I would stop taking the word of the flight academies as the gospel. They are selling a product and they will say whatever they need to to convince you that going to their school is the only way to become a professional pilot. Take what they say with a grain of salt and compare it to the expert opinions of real life professional pilots like those found here on Airline Pilot Forums. You honestly will not get a straight answer from anybody because this is a matter of opinion, all you can do is weigh the facts and decide which route is the best for you to take. Not all academies are money mongering pilot factories and not all FBO's are out to milk you for everything you have and delay your training. Just do your research (Which you are doing) and make the most logical decision you can come up with.
11-19-2007, 07:06 AM
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"No. It was a conclusion drawn when looking at the number of "students" placed with the airlines in a given time period"
That is information you are finding at "big academy" websites. Smaller FBO's may not have websites, or their focus isn't trying to sell you "airline job training".
I can't prove it, but I'd bet there are as many people going to the regionals from small flight schools all over the USA as there are coming out of ATP, DCA, and FSA. You are talking about four or five big academies vs hundreds and hundreds of smaller outfits.
That is information you are finding at "big academy" websites. Smaller FBO's may not have websites, or their focus isn't trying to sell you "airline job training".
I can't prove it, but I'd bet there are as many people going to the regionals from small flight schools all over the USA as there are coming out of ATP, DCA, and FSA. You are talking about four or five big academies vs hundreds and hundreds of smaller outfits.
11-19-2007, 03:21 PM
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the airlines prefer the flight academies because they know that the academies are prepping the students for airline environment and all the students willing to shell out the money for some training like that are going to be serious students looking to take the next step in aviation... not some old grandpa trying to get his private license at an FBO end of story
and did i mention that hawaiian pilots still shouldnt be allowed to fly more than 150NM anywhere?
and did i mention that hawaiian pilots still shouldnt be allowed to fly more than 150NM anywhere?
11-19-2007, 04:37 PM
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Atp, if I were you I would stop taking the word of the flight academies as the gospel. They are selling a product and they will say whatever they need to to convince you that going to their school is the only way to become a professional pilot. Take what they say with a grain of salt and compare it to the expert opinions of real life professional pilots like those found here on Airline Pilot Forums. You honestly will not get a straight answer from anybody because this is a matter of opinion, all you can do is weigh the facts and decide which route is the best for you to take. Not all academies are money mongering pilot factories and not all FBO's are out to milk you for everything you have and delay your training. Just do your research (Which you are doing) and make the most logical decision you can come up with.
Actually, I've been researching on & off since 2004. I had narrowed my search down to FSA & ATP. I visited FSA in Vero Beach, FL and when I looked at the time frame plus the cost...I said, "No way!!"
Then, I started hearing about ATP. Went to there website and did a comparative analysis. Out of the academies, ATP won hands down. Now, I'm doing the same analysis only this time I'm comparing ATP to a reputable and trustworthy FBO...one that I can find. I'm still looking. There is the school Slice told me about in addition to others I have investigated. It may take another "texas minute" or so to decide, but when I do, it will be the best decision and route for me to take.
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11-19-2007, 04:42 PM
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"No. It was a conclusion drawn when looking at the number of "students" placed with the airlines in a given time period"
I can't prove it, but I'd bet there are as many people going to the regionals from small flight schools all over the USA as there are coming out of ATP, DCA, and FSA. You are talking about four or five big academies vs hundreds and hundreds of smaller outfits.
I can't prove it, but I'd bet there are as many people going to the regionals from small flight schools all over the USA as there are coming out of ATP, DCA, and FSA. You are talking about four or five big academies vs hundreds and hundreds of smaller outfits.
I would agree with de727ups. Since there are a gazillion more FBO's than there are academies, I've got my work cut out for me. I will "Google" FBO/Flight Training and see what I come up with.
In the mean time, if any of you guys know of any good FBO's in the SE Florida area, (Palm Beach, Broward, or Martin Counties)let me know. My hope is that the maintenance and training are comparable to that of ATP and the cost tens of thousand less. I may be overlooking some.
Thanks in advance.
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11-19-2007, 07:05 PM
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the airlines prefer the flight academies because they know that the academies are prepping the students for airline environment and all the students willing to shell out the money for some training like that are going to be serious students looking to take the next step in aviation... not some old grandpa trying to get his private license at an FBO end of story
11-19-2007, 07:59 PM
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Just from what you wrote,whats wrong with Aeronautix Flight School.If i were training,what better instruction could you get than from a crusty old captain.Not a dig against the new instructors,just seems you would be getting more "experience"for your training dollar.Right there close to home,I definately think you are on the right track going with the fbo.I bet that when you get to where you need that six or seven day cross country in a twin,if you asked on here loud enough
you might find someone on here willing to help your cause.Apache,s are great cross country time buildersAnyway,good luck to you from one old guy to another. FLY SAFE T.C.
you might find someone on here willing to help your cause.Apache,s are great cross country time buildersAnyway,good luck to you from one old guy to another. FLY SAFE T.C.
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