Question about instructing at ATP
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Question about instructing at ATP
I am interested in Flight Instructing at ATP. I got my licenses elsewhere. I heard that they work the instructors seven days a week. is this true? I am an officer in the Army National Guard and could not possibly work seven days a week.
#2
I don't know the answer to your question, but you can pretty well imagine they are going to want to "own" the instructor because of the nature of the ATP program being what it is- git 'er dun flight training from start to finish, no holds barred. The only way parttime would work is if they would let your students go to another instructor on the weekdays; I doubt they will but call them. If the CFI shortage is enough they might be willing.
If you do get on, pls. let those of us here who have been unable to get our CFI/II due to their policy of not hiring people who do not want to work for them know if this is rigid or are there loopholes. Espcially if you get hired at Fulton Co... I have been putting off taking the CFI course there due to not being able to teach for them.
If you do get on, pls. let those of us here who have been unable to get our CFI/II due to their policy of not hiring people who do not want to work for them know if this is rigid or are there loopholes. Espcially if you get hired at Fulton Co... I have been putting off taking the CFI course there due to not being able to teach for them.
Last edited by Cubdriver; 09-02-2007 at 10:56 AM.
#5
I instructed there for 16 months. There is a direct relationship to how busy you are and what location you are instructing at. If you instruct at ATL, JAX, DFW, and PHX (which used to be the busiest when I was there) you will work alot. You will work alot no matter what location you work at, especially if it is a location with the 90-day program. I instructed at a 10-month location and pretty much had my own schedule. The advantage to working at a larger location is that if you have a military commitment that weekend, you have a larger choice of instructors who can hopefully pick up your work. At the same time, if you are working at slower location, you can almost make your own schedule. One thing to consider though, if you work at a busier location, you will fly more and instruct for a shorter amount of time. Either way, they shouldn't have a problem with your military commitment. I am in the Navy Reserves myself, and I am pretty sure that there is a federal law that protects us from our employers. They have to obey your military orders as well. You cannot be fired for a military commitment. I just had a 3 day trip removed last month for a military commitment, and there is nothing my company could do about it.
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Cubdriver, You can definatly get hired on as an instructor at ATP, I am currently a student at FTY and there is a severe shortage of instructors, The last two instructors that I have had came from different flight schools and never took any of ATP classes... I am currently in the ACPP and the ratio is supposed to be 2 to 1 but because of the lack of instructors and the quick turn around of instructors the ratio for me is 6 to 1.... So if you are looking to instruct and build hours come down to FTY....
#7
i went there and yea i know they instruct ALOT... but... you coordinate it with your students (who live 5ft away) and its up to you guys... we would go party all night... and agree on 1pm. the next day.. i'm sure you'll get your wrist slapped if the company sees you havent been flying much.. and besides.. the students checkrides are already scheduled before you meet the student... so its your job to get em ready by that checkride date. have fun =) hahah...j/k... the guys at my location were all awesome guys!!! i actually miss em...
to tell you honestly.... we called it our $50,000 vacation.. (stuart, FL) just north of West Palm Beach
to tell you honestly.... we called it our $50,000 vacation.. (stuart, FL) just north of West Palm Beach
#8
heard a rumor that if you get your CFI (not necessarily at ATP)and go work with ATP that they will pay for your CFII and MEI...this coming from instructors that are there right now...anyone shed some light on this
i would only consider this cause the path of a non cfi is going slower then i thought (good money, not that much hours)
i would only consider this cause the path of a non cfi is going slower then i thought (good money, not that much hours)
#9
I have a couple of questions for the CFI's @ ATP.
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- Who & what determines which aircraft I will instruct in? Whether SE or ME.
- What is the average TT & ME time that a person has after completing the PP & ACPP and instructing @ ATP when they are offered a class date at a regional?
- Avg amount of time spent instructing (b4 being offered a starting class date) after completion of the PP & ACPP?
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#10
PPL- they do 85 hours worth. (so they can jump into the ACPP)
ACPP- depends on what they come in with but... add 120-140 to what they already have
Usually I think they check you out in both the 172 and Seminole. So you'll do both more than likely *HINT HINT* request a place that doesnt do PPL if you only want multi.
My instructors were there prolly anywhere from 2-6 months before headin out to a regional (typically around 400hrs-700)
ACPP- depends on what they come in with but... add 120-140 to what they already have
Usually I think they check you out in both the 172 and Seminole. So you'll do both more than likely *HINT HINT* request a place that doesnt do PPL if you only want multi.
My instructors were there prolly anywhere from 2-6 months before headin out to a regional (typically around 400hrs-700)
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