Aerobatics
07-27-2007, 07:31 PM
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from my understanding, anyone can do aerobatics, whether your stupid enough to do them without instruction is up to you.. you just can't be over a densely populated area.
.. competition and airshows is probably another story
.. competition and airshows is probably another story
07-27-2007, 11:27 PM
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I think legally you can't do those maneuvers in aircraft not rated for them. And unless you have your own plane I don't think any FBO in their right mind will let you check out an aerobatics capable aircraft without some sort of training.
P.S - I know you can do limited aerobatics in Utility class aircraft such as the 152. But they are very specific on what maneuvers you can do and I'm pretty sure it's limited to stalls and spins.
P.S - I know you can do limited aerobatics in Utility class aircraft such as the 152. But they are very specific on what maneuvers you can do and I'm pretty sure it's limited to stalls and spins.
07-28-2007, 12:44 AM
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I dont know anyone in the state of Mass that is doing X300 instructing besides Mike... and i think he only has a couple of instructors working beside him...
Im not even from Mass... but the Akro community is a small one
07-28-2007, 12:54 AM
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Agree with that statement. I really appreciate when I see someone that is not flying a fire breathing Pitts, Extra, Zivco, etc. because you know they are working HARD to make the stuff look good. There is a guy on the airshow circuit doing a routine in a stock, 220hp Stearman...and he does a beautiful job - really smooth, nice looking routine. Most people watch and because there are no tumbles, and no vertical penetration, they are bored...the pilots who watch are in awe, because they know how hard he is working to do what he is doing.
I joke. I kid. It is nice every now and then to see a good old fashioned grass roots aerobatic run. Not all the time, just every now and then...
ps. When your pitts is breathing fire, you probably missed a couple of annuals. Or you are on fire. Either one.
07-28-2007, 07:06 AM
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I think legally you can't do those maneuvers in aircraft not rated for them. And unless you have your own plane I don't think any FBO in their right mind will let you check out an aerobatics capable aircraft without some sort of training.
P.S - I know you can do limited aerobatics in Utility class aircraft such as the 152. But they are very specific on what maneuvers you can do and I'm pretty sure it's limited to stalls and spins.
P.S - I know you can do limited aerobatics in Utility class aircraft such as the 152. But they are very specific on what maneuvers you can do and I'm pretty sure it's limited to stalls and spins.
As for Airshows and the like, the reason they can do them so close to the ground is because they were given an FAA Waiver. Allowing them to perform that close to the ground and people.
07-28-2007, 07:40 AM
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I know! I know!! I also wish that at NASCAR races, instead of those sleek fast loud stock cars that go 180mph, they should use old ford model T's because they are really smooth and nice looking. Yeah.
I joke. I kid. It is nice every now and then to see a good old fashioned grass roots aerobatic run. Not all the time, just every now and then...
ps. When your pitts is breathing fire, you probably missed a couple of annuals. Or you are on fire. Either one.
I joke. I kid. It is nice every now and then to see a good old fashioned grass roots aerobatic run. Not all the time, just every now and then...
ps. When your pitts is breathing fire, you probably missed a couple of annuals. Or you are on fire. Either one.
I know you were kidding...but your post has made me SERIOUSLY doubt whether my dream of developing an unlimited acro routine in a Pietenpol will really be a money-maker.
07-28-2007, 09:35 AM
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see normally that would have been a great suggestion. but my acro instructor said something the other day that made me think... it was something to the extent of: "half of those guys flying the airliners haven't even been over 40 degrees of pitch and 60 degrees of bank in their lives, are they the kind of people you want flying you?"
07-28-2007, 02:51 PM
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If you are female, thats a good start. I know a couple hundred people who have been in aerobatics for 15-20 years, gone to national and international comps and barely make enough money each airshow to cover the cost of their expenses.
Unfortunately, you're gonna need another job.
The good news is: performing aerobatics and having a career in something seperate is possible. People who do well in aerobatics usually have 3 things in common: 1. The obvious... a large amount of natural talent flying the plane. 2. They are good at marketing their act to get people to want to have them in their airshow. 3. They know people.
07-28-2007, 06:34 PM
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this might be tough to swallow, but there are only a handful of people that actually make money from aerobatics.
If you are female, thats a good start. I know a couple hundred people who have been in aerobatics for 15-20 years, gone to national and international comps and barely make enough money each airshow to cover the cost of their expenses.
Unfortunately, you're gonna need another job.
The good news is: performing aerobatics and having a career in something seperate is possible. People who do well in aerobatics usually have 3 things in common: 1. The obvious... a large amount of natural talent flying the plane. 2. They are good at marketing their act to get people to want to have them in their airshow. 3. They know people.
If you are female, thats a good start. I know a couple hundred people who have been in aerobatics for 15-20 years, gone to national and international comps and barely make enough money each airshow to cover the cost of their expenses.
Unfortunately, you're gonna need another job.
The good news is: performing aerobatics and having a career in something seperate is possible. People who do well in aerobatics usually have 3 things in common: 1. The obvious... a large amount of natural talent flying the plane. 2. They are good at marketing their act to get people to want to have them in their airshow. 3. They know people.
