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Old 09-04-2018, 01:35 AM
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Question Hiring Recency - Haven't flown in 8 years...

I have been away from flying for 8 years since I was a MEII at a 141 school. I'm planning on going to the airlines but trying to find the best way to get back in shape?
Should I apply to regionals with no recency (haven't even flown in 8 years) knowing their desperation for pilots?
Should I go be a CFI (still valid) at another flight school for a year to get back in shape, even if it won't take that long?

I see many regionals are requiring recency. Does anyone know of them waiving this requirement.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:17 AM
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Consider you’ll need to make it through sim training and a type rating check ride. I wouldn’t do that cold after 8 years.
Get a Flight review/ IPC and go from there.
Find a Training device or FTD and go thorough a couple of mock ATP checkrides with an experienced instructor.
I don’t think a sim at a regional at 4am is the right place to get current again.
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Old 09-04-2018, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by napavin
I have been away from flying for 8 years since I was a MEII at a 141 school. I'm planning on going to the airlines but trying to find the best way to get back in shape?
Should I apply to regionals with no recency (haven't even flown in 8 years) knowing their desperation for pilots?
Should I go be a CFI (still valid) at another flight school for a year to get back in shape, even if it won't take that long?

I see many regionals are requiring recency. Does anyone know of them waiving this requirement.
Thanks
6 approaches or an IPC and 25-50hrs in the past 12 months should do the trick.

Folks are getting snap rejections and TBNT after interviews for being flight current without instrument currency. You’ll want to have both for you to have the best shot at choosing your regional, instead of struggling to get onboard somewhere.
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napavin, Recently I was in the exact same position. I got a BFR and then an IPC. Then I got hired as a 135 cargo pilot. I was quite rusty, so this was a good way to go. Doing approaches and takeoffs at minimums as a 135 single-pilot, hand-flying ILS's regularly, flying real circle-to-land landings to perfection, doing a lot of weight-and-balances, dodging thunderstorms, and seeing ice again have been good for me, and you won't get these things in training (especially icing). I suggest you do the same thing. Would you be willing to fly 135 cargo for a year, then move on to the regionals?

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Old 09-04-2018, 05:23 PM
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napavin, Recently I was in the exact same position. I got a BFR and then an IPC. Then I got hired as a 135 cargo pilot. I was quite rusty, so this was a good way to go. Doing approaches and takeoffs at minimums as a 135 single-pilot, hand-flying ILS's regularly, flying real circle-to-land landings to perfection, doing a lot of weight-and-balances, dodging thunderstorms, and seeing ice again have been good for me, and you won't get these things in training (especially icing). I suggest you do the same thing. Would you be willing to fly 135 cargo for a year, then move on to the regionals?
I avoided that was when I was really current on steam gauges and props... because I had a family. I would suggest that if you have a family that is not the best way to get current if you haven't been flying for years.

Get legally current, then fly around a little in the system (carefully!) until you feel comfortable. The go to a regional, they'll work with you a little bit these days if needed. An iced-up piston twin in night IMC will not work with you at all.

If no family, then yeah that would be fun.
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Old 09-04-2018, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I would suggest that if you have a family that is not the best way to get current if you haven't been flying for years.
Rick, thanks for pointing that out. I don't have a family. I hadn't thought about how it might be different for someone with a family.

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...go to a regional, they'll work with you a little bit these days if needed
I have heard there are new-hires at Envoy who are in Sim Lesson #30 of training, which is way over the normal number of sim lessons. It seems some regionals are willing to spend a lot of extra time to get new-hires ready.
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Yeah, I had a family in those 8 years...
I concur that getting current and re-learning for 6mo to a year after that long time would be nothing but beneficial.
Maybe ATP school as a CFII MEII?
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How about a Flight review and an IPC and try PlaneSense for a year?
135 time with lots of cycles and approaches.
Two men Crew experience.
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