Hiring Mins 3000?
12-10-2023, 05:54 AM
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Hiring Mins 3000?
Heard that flexjet is upping their hiring mins to 3000TT in 2024???? Can any flex guys confirm this??
I heard they were already having a difficult time hiring quality and qualified pilots, seems like this will just make their attrition worse than it already is. Seems like Kenn Ricci isnt making the best decisions for his pilots anymore
I heard they were already having a difficult time hiring quality and qualified pilots, seems like this will just make their attrition worse than it already is. Seems like Kenn Ricci isnt making the best decisions for his pilots anymore
12-10-2023, 07:12 AM
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Depends. If they have safety data showing problems which correlate to lower time, it might be better to impair growth than start crashing airplanes.
Or maybe the customers care about pilot stats?
Or maybe the customers care about pilot stats?
12-10-2023, 11:56 AM
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12-10-2023, 01:41 PM
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You would think so but that crew was incredibly experienced according to the preliminary NTSB report. Over 27k hours of combined experience between the two pilots.
https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/193114/pdf
https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/193114/pdf
12-10-2023, 02:01 PM
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Heard that flexjet is upping their hiring mins to 3000TT in 2024???? Can any flex guys confirm this??
I heard they were already having a difficult time hiring quality and qualified pilots, seems like this will just make their attrition worse than it already is. Seems like Kenn Ricci isnt making the best decisions for his pilots anymore
I heard they were already having a difficult time hiring quality and qualified pilots, seems like this will just make their attrition worse than it already is. Seems like Kenn Ricci isnt making the best decisions for his pilots anymore
12-10-2023, 02:06 PM
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Hopefully there is some acknowledgement within management that 3000 hr pilots command a pay premium over 1500 hr pilots. In this market a 3000 hr pilot could basically work anywhere with a clean record and decent interview.
12-10-2023, 02:07 PM
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sorta. They are also raisng new hire pay, a rather decent chunk it sounds like.
12-10-2023, 02:41 PM
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step 1: only hire 3,000TT pilots
step 2: pay new hires more
step 3: continue to lose pilots to the airlines.
step 4: realize the mistake made in step 1
12-10-2023, 03:06 PM
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They are trying to hire pilots who don't want to go to the airlines. They have some exit data they are using to try and weed those folks out. Higher more experinced piltos is part of it, with the theoryh that if those pilots wanted to go to the airlines they already would have. I dunno if it'll work but that's their theory. Honesly I'll be happy to fly with more experienced FOs.
12-10-2023, 03:06 PM
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Another thing interesting about step one is that I can’t imagine a line out the door of 3000 hr pilots wanting to be Phenom SIC for any amount of time in the current market.
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