Emmerson Bigs

First, What personal insults?
Second, you sign up for SIG notes by simply making sure ALPA has your correct email and you’ve approved receiving them. Why would that get put into the contract? The contract is between us and the company, not a how to for internal union comm. If folks are going to exert little to no effort to engage and stay informed that’s their choice. Just delete all the emails without reading like one guy said he does. But don’t blame the union if you don’t even have the motivation to make sure your lines of communication are properly set up.
Third, You’re kidding right? The company isn’t going to modify VIPs open time display to help us avoid trips that are disputed between them and the union.

FXLAX

I’m ABSOLUTELY NOT kidding. Why wouldn’t the company do something that is negotiated into the contract? That’s what the entire contract is about, written instructions and stipulations on how both parties will uphold their duties and responsibilities to each other. Honestly, it shouldn’t be a foreign concept. If we want them to do something, we have to negotiate it and put it in the contract, just like literally everything in the contract. I believe it’s the best and easiest way. That we can have honest disagreement. But it’s not something that is out of the realm of physics to make happen.

Second, I’m merely explaining to you that there is no instruction manual on how or where to sing up for anything. And the legal document that tells us about disputed pairings, doesn’t either. And that document is almost 600 pages. I’d bet your life that you are ignorant on multiple clauses in it. Third, that was a personal insult to you. Just like you made to everyone who didn’t happen to know how to identify disputed pairings by calling us ignorant for not knowing that.

Now, can you please come off your self-righteous high horse and have a conversation like a normal human being without calling them ignorant for not knowing one section of the contract (which doesn’t explain how to identify such trips) that is 600 pages?

PurpleToolBox

I was surprised seeing the SIG now reporting DPs again. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought after the '15 contract the SIG was prohibited from publishing DPs. The trips were to be flown by us (not knowing they were disputed) AND if we put in fatigue reports then the pairings would be changed. Otherwise, they stayed they way they were. Hence, the huge push from ALPA to always fill out a fatigue report if a pairing made you tired.

What am I missing or wrong about?

Adlerdriver

http://fdx.alpa.org/Portals/26/docs/...20Pairings.pdf

pilot141

I remember a very short window in maybe 07 or 08 where disputed pairings had a red D or something next to them so even in open time you could tell if you were picking up something that you should not.

The disputed pairing process got gutted in the last contract - we need to get that back so everyone knows what they are looking at without digging through emails or using second party software. The company can just flip the software switch, but we have to negotiate it.

Thrust Hold

But isn't it more fun to rail and publicly scrutinize our own guys? Call people "3 year wonders" as if it's a demeaning term.

***Thanks to all of those that passed up the Upgrade opportunity and made my "3 year wonder" status possible.

AZFlyer

Hopefully this is a quick and easy question, that in all likelihood has been answered somewhere in the last ~800 replies to this thread, but I haven't seen it...

The FedEx APC profile says that "new hire pay is $4000/month". I'm assuming this is during some duration of your initial new hire training foot print? When does normal pay start?

Lastly, is there a ballpark figure for typical earnings in the first year?

Thanks in advance.

Thrust Hold

Training Pay until you activate in seat (completion of IOE). So about 3 months of Training Pay.

1st year depends on how much effort you put in at the lower pay rate. Most guys drop quite a bit and create Makeup bank for 2nd year. I, on the other hand (as a local) hustled and cleared about $90k. *Results may vary.

AZFlyer

Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. Follow up question: is you anniversary pay raise based on hire date or completion of IOE date?

BlueMoon

hire date.....