Sluggo_63

Dude, I really hope you're kidding...

If you are, you need to work on your delivery.

If you're not... that's troubling for two reasons.

1. Why is this a bad thing. Why shouldn't we give new hires something? I know... I didn't get a paid to Memphis, so no one else should either. Keep pulling that ladder up.

2. "Just another reason I'm glad I voted no!!!" AYFKM? You're just finding out about this paid move now?!?! Another low-information "no" voter. Let me guess, you just read the sections that pertained to you and nothing else. You voted "no" without doing any due diligence, not reading the full CBA. It astounds me how many "no" voters I run into that still are surprised by things in the CBA. Didn't you guys read anything before voting, or did you just vote on what your buddies told you to do.

Personally, I don't care how people voted, as long as it was an educated vote based on factual information and words in the CBA. Not on some internet rumors.

For what it's worth, the fact that we are now paying for a move to Memphis for new-hires was in the "Pro" column for me when I was deciding how to vote. And I'm far from being a new-hire.

Check 6

Did you really not pick up on his sarcasm?
BTW... I voted No....and I read it....I understood it...and I still voted No...But I'm a "low info" type....

Sluggo_63

I honestly did not pick up on his sarcasm. A smiley would have helped

And I didn't say that all no voters were "low information" voters. I get the no vote. I really do, there were plenty of real items in the "Con" column that were legitimate reasons to vote against the CBA. I was just saying that I'm surprised by the no voters that I've talked to that are surprised by what good things may be in this CBA. There's also the "what did we give up for that?" crowd when discussing a positive that they may not get. Mostly stuff for new-hires or junior pilots.

I overheard a Captain recently talking about the negatives of the FDA to a new-ish hire. How the cost of living is so high, and on 1st year NB pay it's impossible. I pointed out that new-hires in the FDAs get $100/hour min, and with the new New Hire Junior Activation Compensation most recent new hires in CGN to to WB pay when they hit their 2nd year. And in the FDA section with the NHJAP Deferral paragraph, they don't even have to have a WB in their Standing Bid to keep the WB pay in CGN. This was a surprise to the advise-giving Captain, and I got a "what did we have to give up for that..." Unbelievable.

That's what I rail against. Not the "No" votes, but the people who voted "No" (or "Yes") without doing their due diligence.

...and I guess I'll have to re-calibrate my on-line sarcasm detector...

abom6

Haven't seen any info on this lately, but what aircraft are the low 0xxx Social Security # getting?

Assume not targeted for MD11.

FlyingOkra

Airbus......filler

kronan

FedEx runs inverted...so High SSN's pick first. Perfect would be 9999

NotMrNiceGuy

Can someone provide further explanation of this " Deferral of Obligation to “Protect” New Hire Junior Activation Compensation " paragraph? Do all 2nd Year First Officers in CGN receive WB pay or are there certain conditions that need to be met first?

p3pilot

I'd also like to know since I'm in the same boat. Are any going to the 777?


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Pakagecheck

Of the new hires I've spoke to, the 777s normally go pretty high. Pretty sure always in the top half.

NewOldGuy

We had 6 in our indoc at start of month. I think the lowest one had a last 4 beginning with 5. They also said the "plan" right now is most likely no more 777 new hires until maybe December. Of course that can always change.


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