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06-03-2016, 08:03 AM

#61

busdriver12

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Originally Posted by sprucie

http://m.ebay.com/itm/181806963779?_mwBanner=1

This should help nail down the parts cost if they are not installed in the 757s. I do not know if these are HEPA or not and I have have no proof one way or the other if they are currently in use.

We could hold a couple of barbecues at Memphis and cover the cost of those. Would sure like to know who exactly ordered the removal and why. Anyone get a bonus for the cost savings?

06-03-2016, 11:51 AM

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HIFLYR

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Originally Posted by busdriver12

I also am sorry to hear you've had to suffer through that. It really bothers me how many of our pilots seem to have to deal with these sort of problems, as it seems that the statistics are far higher than the norm. Of course, neither the union nor the company keeps track. Reading what we're exposed to makes me wonder if that's the reason why. I would really like the hear the reason for removing the HEPA filters also.

The real question is did they get approval from the aircraft manufacturer in a EA or just remove them. I can't see Airbus or Boeing approving a EA for that and if no EA how can FedEx just decide to remove them.

06-03-2016, 12:19 PM

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Raptor

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I've heard rumors the filters were part of the MD-10 supplemental type certificate. If true, that might be a major fine and self-disclosure for operating a huge, huge number of unairworthy flights?

06-03-2016, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackKnight

While I'm certainly not arguing with you, I am glad to see them finally issue reflective vests.

They want us to wear a vest - fine. Was the best solution really to buy 4200+ vests and ship each one individually to all of us?

How about just put a couple of them on each jet, change the FOM to require wearing them for walk-arounds and call it good.

06-04-2016, 02:12 AM

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TheBaron Deux

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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver

They want us to wear a vest - fine. Was the best solution really to buy 4200+ vests and ship each one individually to all of us?

How about just put a couple of them on each jet, change the FOM to require wearing them for walk-arounds and call it good.

When has logic ever been involved in company decisions? Delay starting the APU for another minute (x 10 years) and we'll have it all paid for.

06-04-2016, 03:59 AM

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BlackKnight

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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver

They want us to wear a vest - fine. Was the best solution really to buy 4200+ vests and ship each one individually to all of us?

How about just put a couple of them on each jet, change the FOM to require wearing them for walk-arounds and call it good.

Valid, and agreed. Actually, I've had that discussion several times as a good way to go about it. Is it India where it's required, or Japan (been a while since I was on the 777)? The ramp guys just gave one to you at the jet...

06-04-2016, 10:58 AM

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FDXFLYR

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CGN and FRA for sure, maybe others.

06-04-2016, 12:38 PM

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hoya saxa

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Back to original thread topic - write an Insite report about your beefs with the policy change. Maybe (ha!) they'll listen. I did and it felt good to vent, which is all it accomplished. Why not at least give us a month or so to "transition" to this policy vs "fire, ready, aim"??

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