Raptor

The FedEx CBA gives the pilot the option of getting 1 in 10 off.

What happens if you have a trip extended or you get in late, thus operationally eliminating the 1 in 10 off in your calendar a few days later? I believe you can waive it and fly your schedule. What happens if you don't want to waive it. Is the trip dropped--with pay or without pay. Are you put into substitution.

Same question goes for the FAA requirement of 1 in 7, but in this case it's 24 hours off. This can't be waived. What happens if you have trips on your calendar that meet 1 in 7, but you operationally get extended a day or run late and no longer have 24 hours off? Will the trip at the end of your series of trips get dropped? Will you get paid or just makeup, will you get put into substitution?

I realize answers are buried in the CBA, but it's a hard read. Does anyone have the simple answer through knowledge or first-hand experience?

FDXLAG

If it is their fault I can't do my next trip and comply with the contract or the FARs I get put in sub.

Nightflyer

Unless you go over 100/30 in a new bid month. Then it's automatically your fault, and they drop your trip, without pay, and you can go into the make up window to pick up trips, or take the month off.

The NC promised me they would fix this, and they didn't speak for me.

TonyC

There's probably no "simple" answer other than they haven't violated your 1-in-10 until you get to the 10th day. There is more than one way to "fix" it.

I had 3 trips in a row in the 11 days leading up to and extending beyond Christmas Day. I was scheduled to get my 1-in-10 between trips on the Saturday before Christmas (between Trips 1 and 2). On Sunday I began "Trip 2" that was scheduled to get home on the afternoon of Christmas Eve, and I had "Trip 3" scheduled to leave on the morning of Christmas (so, no 1-in-10 to be had there).

Due to a mechanical issue on "Trip 1" that was scheduled to end Friday night, I did not spend 24 hours in base between that trip and the pre-Christmas trip, so the 1-in-10 scheduled on paper did not actually occur. I would still need a day off at my base by the 26th.

They could have removed me from Trip 2, the pre-Christmas trip, to give me a 1-in-10, or they could have removed me from Trip 3, the Christmas Day trip, to give me the 1-in-10, but they had options up until I got to Day 10. They chose Plan C, by revising Trip 2 to get me back to base on the 23rd, gave me my 1-in-10, and then I headed to Toluca on Christmas Day.

I'm not a big fan of substitution, and I appreciated getting home early (although it was a back-end deadhead, and I would have been home almost as early by deviating, anyway), so it worked out.

The point of my story is there is no specific way they are required to handle the problem when your scheduled 1-in-10 gets trashed. They just have to give it to you somehow unless you've waived it.






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Raptor

Good info, thanks Tony.

With 1 in 7, does only revenue duty count, or do passenger deadheads keep your clock of "on duty" running? Example, three days of trips with the end of the last trip DH to base. Then, leave out of base on a revenue trip with only 12 hours off. But, from your last revenue on 3rd day to revenue on 4th you have 28 hours between. Did you get a legal 1 in 7 even though you deadheaded as a passenger in that 28 hours?

HIFLYR

DH's are duty and I think the times are tied to your original pairings DHs times regardless if you deviated.

TonyC

§12.C.1.b. 1-in-7






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