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Old 10-17-2015, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper446
this contract is not all about me, its about us as a collective group.
From what I've observed the last month and a half, if I were to summarize the philosophical differences between the yes and no groups, it would be that the predominate view of a yes voter is that it is the best deal for "me," whereas the usual belief of the no voter is that it is a not a good deal for "us."

I sure hope at least 51% are thinking about all of "us"...
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Old 10-17-2015, 10:19 PM
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From what I've observed the last month and a half, if I were to summarize the philosophical differences between the yes and no groups, it would be that the predominate view of a yes voter is that it is the best deal for "me," whereas the

I sure hope at least 51% are thinking about all of "us"...
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Old 10-18-2015, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Iwa Washi
From what I've observed the last month and a half, if I were to summarize the philosophical differences between the yes and no groups, it would be that the predominate view of a yes voter is that it is the best deal for "me," whereas the usual belief of the no voter is that it is a not a good deal for "us."

I sure hope at least 51% are thinking about all of "us"...
Good point and in 48 hours we will find out if all the me's in the yes group are more than all the us's in the no group. If so they will be more us than the other us. If not they won't.
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Old 10-18-2015, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Iwa Washi
From what I've observed the last month and a half, if I were to summarize the philosophical differences between the yes and no groups, it would be that the predominate view of a yes voter is that it is the best deal for "me," whereas the usual belief of the no voter is that it is a not a good deal for "us."



I sure hope at least 51% are thinking about all of "us"...

What I've seen also.
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Old 10-18-2015, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Iwa Washi
From what I've observed the last month and a half, if I were to summarize the philosophical differences between the yes and no groups, it would be that the predominate view of a yes voter is that it is the best deal for "me," whereas the usual belief of the no voter is that it is a not a good deal for "us."
Oh Please GIVE ME A BREAK with the us vs me. This is one of the most personal decisions you'll make regarding your career this year.

Let see, do you sleep with and support your wife? Or do you sleep with and support (financially) your buddies and co-worker? Next, who is more important to you, your children's future or the future of the people you share the cockpit with sometimes? I give all to my children, sports, school ,etc. Same thing goes to the relationship with my spouse. This is very PERSONAL. Knock off the fake altruistic nonsense.
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Old 10-18-2015, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Iwa Washi
From what I've observed the last month and a half, if I were to summarize the philosophical differences between the yes and no groups, it would be that the predominate view of a yes voter is that it is the best deal for "me," whereas the usual belief of the no voter is that it is a not a good deal for "us."

I sure hope at least 51% are thinking about all of "us"...
oh no, I need to go change my vote because I don't feel like I am a selfish person.

That pigeonholing is like believing a non member when they would say "its not about the money". I would have to say that trying to summarize the reasoning behind any "groups" decision making is not worth your time unless of course you want to act high and mighty, in that case you have suceeded.
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Originally Posted by Putter Feet
Oh Please GIVE ME A BREAK with the us vs me. This is one of the most personal decisions you'll make regarding your career this year.

Let see, do you sleep with and support your wife? Or do you sleep with and support (financially) your buddies and co-worker? Next, who is more important to you, your children's future or the future of the people you share the cockpit with sometimes? I give all to my children, sports, school ,etc. Same thing goes to the relationship with my spouse. This is very PERSONAL. Knock off the fake altruistic nonsense.
Wait six months, he will be telling you it is better to vote for Hillary because she is pro labor and it is in our interest to vote for her even if it isn't in the country's interests. You see it all depends on who you define as us today. By definition, the best definition of us will be whichever side has the most votes.
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Originally Posted by Putter Feet
Oh Please GIVE ME A BREAK with the us vs me. This is one of the most personal decisions you'll make regarding your career this year.

Let see, do you sleep with and support your wife? Or do you sleep with and support (financially) your buddies and co-worker? Next, who is more important to you, your children's future or the future of the people you share the cockpit with sometimes? I give all to my children, sports, school ,etc. Same thing goes to the relationship with my spouse. This is very PERSONAL. Knock off the fake altruistic nonsense.
Yeah, I am kind of tired of it too. Even as a no voter.
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Putter Feet
Oh Please GIVE ME A BREAK with the us vs me. This is one of the most personal decisions you'll make regarding your career this year.

Let see, do you sleep with and support your wife? Or do you sleep with and support (financially) your buddies and co-worker? Next, who is more important to you, your children's future or the future of the people you share the cockpit with sometimes? I give all to my children, sports, school ,etc. Same thing goes to the relationship with my spouse. This is very PERSONAL. Knock off the fake altruistic nonsense.
Let me understand this correctly, you give all to your family? I like that. It's because of our Union you are able to do this. I think he's spot on Putter and I'll even put my name to it.
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:28 AM
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The difference between a Yes voter and a No voter seems to me, is that a Yes voter sees it as the best deal available for US and a No voter seems to be a not enough for me

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