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Old 10-12-2015, 07:04 PM
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Could be, this paragraph is essentially unchanged:

The Company will pay the first $401.08 per month ($4,813 annually) of the total projected cost of health coverage for each Pre-Medicare eligible retired pilot and the same amount for each eligible spouse and the same amount for each eligible surviving spouse (i.e., the Company’s fiscal 1993 per capita cap is maintained). The remainder of the total projected cost for each pilot and for each spouse will be paid by the covered individual, either from the assets in the individual’s Health Reimbursement Account (HRA), or if administratively feasible, the individual’s Health Savings Account (HSA), if any, or from the individual’s other assets.

Maybe I misremembered the 18k from the roadshow.
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Old 10-12-2015, 07:28 PM
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The NC says that in 2016 we are paying about 13% of the health care cost. The Buy up plan with Employee+spouse is going to be 196.61/mo. Which if you do the math comes out to $18,148. Ok...I'll buy that.

But, the retiree's premiums for the same plan this year, 2015, are $13,728. Add, the capped(since the 1999 contract) company's contribution of $4,813 for the retiree and $4,813 for his spouse...The total premium would be $23,354.

Who's paying the other $5,206/yr for the working pilot? Or whose numbers aren't right?
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Thanks for supplying your numbers. And you also have the $25,000 HRA to help defray rising costs. The rest of us Retiree wannabes, not so much.
It was actually around $27,000.
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:10 AM
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Latest NC update:

"The purpose of this article is to relate how some of the TA changes in scheduling sections may affect your monthly schedules".

I thought they might actually gives us some breakdowns, pluses and minuses, and provide specific trip examples. Instead they put more lipstick on the pig and only pointed out the good things, giving us one more sales pitch IMO to garner more votes.

I have lost respect.
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:45 AM
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Full hard sell mode.

They are even trying to sell PBS - amazing!
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:59 AM
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Kind of amazing. Full positive spin on everything. Whoever is writing this stuff should be working in politics.
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Old 10-14-2015, 10:20 AM
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They are not selling PBS. PBS is a pejorative and is simply unacceptable compared to the traditional bidding process we use of bidding Lines, VTO, and Reserve.

With our without this TA, our traditional bidding will remain and PBS is simply not a player. With or without this TA, there are no Restrictions to the software FedEx mgt uses.
The only involvement we have in choosing software is WITH this TA, where both ALPA and Mgt have to be in agreement or the VTO process reverts to status quo
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Old 10-14-2015, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kronan
... PBS is a pejorative ...
GREAT word! And very aptly used.
(and yes, I had to look it up to refresh my brain cells)

Was that a 'Factor' word of the day?
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:00 PM
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We, our NC included, have gone from "PBS is our line in the sand!!!", to: "well, VTO's were really PBS all along, it's actually a good thing, it'll be great for your schedules. We encourage you to vote yes." Wow.
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan
They are not selling PBS. PBS is a pejorative and is simply unacceptable compared to the traditional bidding process we use of bidding Lines, VTO, and Reserve.

With our without this TA, our traditional bidding will remain and PBS is simply not a player. With or without this TA, there are no Restrictions to the software FedEx mgt uses.
The only involvement we have in choosing software is WITH this TA, where both ALPA and Mgt have to be in agreement or the VTO process reverts to status quo
With this TA they can put R days on the #1 VTO without you asking. If you think fancy new software is going to get you the days off you want you are kidding yourself. There is only so much a PBS program can do with our type of trips so it really doesn't matter what the software is.

Bottom line is we allowed the company to create more PBS lines with this TA and gave up the protection of trips first.
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