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Old 10-06-2015, 03:51 PM
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I suggest you email the sick captain and let him know how many hours you are in the hole for.

I think you should tell him you expect him to send you remuneration to make you whole financially. Granted, it is no compensation for you being out of commission or potentially passing on his condition to your family.

In future, insist that an irresponsible pilot call in sick and if he doesn't, then involve the duty officer. If they won't remove him, insist on RMG for yourself. (Removed by management with pay)

We will insist on more quarantining of our sick pilots as a result of this SLB discussion. And that's a good thing.

I hope your family doesn't catch what you picked up.
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Old 10-06-2015, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
I'll admit, I'm confused by your attempted analogy/question...and it's relevance to this discussion

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I wouldn't shoplift either --- stealing is both illegal & immoral

If you're asking whether a criminal would change his behavior based on the value of the good -- perhaps -- he's making a risk/reward trade off

That's why there is probably a mental difference between a "petty thief" and a "jewel thief"

Bottom line: If you economically incentivize a particular behavior, you typically get more of it
I'm just saying that there are somethings that no matter how much we monetize it, some people won't do it. Other people will do it no matter what.

Obviously, flying sick isn't the same as knocking over a liquor store, but if a pilot has such little regard for his co workers that he'll fly sick for whatever reason now, he'll definitely fly sick if this TA passes. He has MORE incentive to do it, but he was doing it anyhow.

Others, who regard their coworkers as important parts of the teams and don't want to do them hard, and who do not fly sick, will probably not fly sick after the TA. It comes down to a ethics question. Is something right or is it wrong. I doubt someone who calls in sick when sick now will all of a sudden see dollar signs after the TA and think, oh... my coworkers health USED to be important to me, but for these 30 pieces of silver, I'll contaminate them and possibly their families.

I don't see it changing who people are on the inside.

But then again, I don't fly sick...
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:07 AM
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What Sluggo said..
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Old 10-07-2015, 06:55 AM
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If someone is clearly, obviously, legitimately flying sick, there's an adult way to handle it. As with everything, you start at the lowest level and engage the offender. If that doesn't work, consider Professional Standards.

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Old 10-07-2015, 06:59 AM
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If someone is clearly, obviously, legitimately flying sick, there's an adult way to handle it. As with everything, you start at the lowest level and engage the offender. If that doesn't work, consider Professional Standards.

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Well said. Pro Stan should always be the second place to go, after first attempting to resolve the situation with the person involved. I've heard of too many stories of a pilot going directly to management.

I wonder how Pro Stan and the FAA interpret the TA's "financial incentive" to not use SCK time?
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Old 10-07-2015, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Well said. Pro Stan should always be the second place to go, after first attempting to resolve the situation with the person involved. I've heard of too many stories of a pilot going directly to management.

I wonder how Pro Stan and the FAA interpret the TA's "financial incentive" to not use SCK time?
Pro Stan. Now that is just plain funny.
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Old 10-07-2015, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
... but if a pilot has such little regard for his co workers that he'll fly sick for whatever reason now, he'll definitely fly sick if this TA passes. He has MORE incentive to do it, but he was doing it anyhow....
We are in 100% agreement here!
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Old 10-07-2015, 11:31 AM
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What about allergies? In the January to February time frame I get brutal allergies. My nose runs, and my eyes itch like crazy.

Am I allowed to fly with the exalted FO's of FedEx with my allergies?

Or should I just burn 2 months of sick leave for something I know won't affect you?
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Old 10-07-2015, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer

Am I allowed to fly with the exalted FO's of FedEx with my allergies?

Exalted FO's? Something tells me you're taking this personally and missing the point. Nobody wants to lock themselves in a sealed chamber with someone who is sick and contagious.

I think they have meds for allergies, but I haven't heard of one for hurt feelings.

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Old 10-07-2015, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
What about allergies? In the January to February time frame I get brutal allergies. My nose runs, and my eyes itch like crazy.

Am I allowed to fly with the exalted FO's of FedEx with my allergies?

Or should I just burn 2 months of sick leave for something I know won't affect you?

Sorry Sir. This is only targeted at FO's. Of course we didn't mean to imply that any of it applied to a CAPTAIN. Gosh, you got hired a little earlier. Clearly there's an entirely different set of rules and social decorum that comes with that.

Bet it's crowded in there. Does your ego sit in the jumpseat?

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