kronan

For the record, it was a Goose...not a chicken

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And if we're making wags of TA next-whenever that may be, I think A plan will stay and B plan will increase to parity or near parity with industry stds.
SWA's 401k match is 9.3% according to APC, their TA raised it to 10

pilot141

And if you talk to any SWA dude or read their forums they consider the meager increase an insult.

On topic, I think a strong no (65-35) helps us more than a weak no vote.

DLax85

It appears the amount of new analysis & debate has leveled off

All we are down to is waiting for the final numbers

Any guesses on the percentage of "undecideds" still out there?

Any guesses on the final tally?

Will there be any last minute reminders that one can still change their vote?

How will the final vote percentages affect us as we move forward?

I'm hopeful the Association leadership has a proactive unity plan either way

Raptor

My unscientific discussions in AOC show 10-15% have not voted yet.

I think a 51% No vote sends exactly the same level of message as a 70% yes vote does. The "machine" is tilted towards a yes vote by the very nature of the process. The union in general is pro TA and the road shows are pro TA too. It's just the way it is. There are a significant number of voters, probably 20-30 percent who are voting yes just because of the road shows or they know someone in the union who says we got every nickle we could get, fearful of path forward, etc.

A winning no vote has to capture a significant and super majority of the remaining amount of pilots. A winning yes vote is already almost there from the starting point. I've talked to hundreds of pilots to form this opinion.

This TA is likely to go down. But, it's now up to that last 10-15 percent who haven't voted. They are truly on the fence. They can still be swayed either way. So, your outreach and providing links such as www.purpleTA.com are still important.

busdriver12

My unscientific, very small survey shows not a single person that I've talked to as voting yes, and three initially easy yes voters voting no (two who changed their vote and one who has not yet voted).

Anything can happen.

USMCFDX

I'm just the opposite. I hav met way more yes voter's than I thought would be out there. It will pass.

busdriver12

I guess I've been talking to a different crowd. Probably a far smaller one. Just out of curiosity, are the people you've been talking to, soon to retire?

USMCFDX

Spread across all the entire spectrum.

pinseeker

My unscientific poll shows that 80% of no voters are either just angry people or have a bone to pick with the union.

Raptor

I see the rolled eyes but completely disagree with the implication that to be a no voter one has to be angry or anti-union.

I'm certainly not angry (passionate and involved, but not angry) nor anti union. Also, most of the folks I know aren't either.

What I've found is that the more people read and investigate the TA (in general with exceptions certainly) the more likely they are to vote no.

The groups I thought would most likely to vote yes were those over 60 and those in their first few years on property. I've found those groups actually leaning towards no.

The group I've found leaning towards yes (besides those working at the union level) seem to be many of the international (not FDA, but U.S. Based international) pilots. I've thought about why and I think they are least likely to be exposed to week on and week off of daily bus rides and AOC conversations.