busdriver12

Except, that is easy to say for those who weren't affected by it, who were still getting their 85-90 hour BLG, while others were getting 60. Gosh, if everyone would just work as scheduled (me with my 90 hours, you with your 60), we'd be out of 4a2b much quicker!

And you still didn't answer my question. Unbelievable!

busdriver12

Well....counts for something? Not sure what. Probably not in a great place to be.

TonyC

Actually, that would have worked. Then everyone would have been back to §4.A.1. without out the contortions and rationalizations.






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busdriver12

"Yes, I was in a seat that was affected, and to top things off, I was excessed to a lower-paying seat. I did not use Bid Line adjustment tools to fly more because I believe we could have been out of §4.A.2.b. in 2 months if everyone else had done the same. I am critical of people whose actions accrue to our detriment. I was taught before kindergarten that two wrongs do not make a right, so pointing out the existence of hypocrites has never been a justification for doing wrong myself.


I was also taught that good leaders lead by example, and I couldn't in good conscience justify writing to my constituents about their §4.A.2.b. pain while I was padding my own paycheck.

You asked, "Why would anyone care if someone flew makeup during 4.A.2.b?" Short answer: Because it hurt us."

That is painful. Excessed, and 4A2b'd also. That is very admirable that you chose to fly low BLG during that period. Would you have done so if you had no constituents, and nobody to justify your actions to?

I do not think that it was dishonorable of people to pad their low BLG's during that time, nor do I think it was dishonorable for those unaffected to not massively drop to match others pain. But it's really the same thing, in my opinion. I don't look down on either group. Just because I can get away with dropping half my schedule for years, doesn't mean I think everyone else can.

busdriver12

"Actually, that would have worked. Then everyone would have been back to §4.A.1. without out the contortions and rationalizations."

And think how fast it could have worked if those in unaffected seat positions had dropped, done whatever it took to get down to the same BLG's as the affected positions.

TonyC

Integrity is doing the right thing even when nobody's looking. I still look at myself in the mirror.






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iarapilot

There goes that rationalization again.

And, I was R seat on the Bus during 4a2b, flying my line, turning down the draft calls, calling in sick when I was, etc.

I operate on the theory that being only one person, I can only do what I can to affect the greater whole. Unfortunately for me, the collective mentality saw otherwise in many cases. And it looks like the joke was on me.

With many of the subsequent posts here on APC and elsewhere, it seems that the joke is still on me.

busdriver12

Okay, but you didn't actually fully answer my questions. Did you only fly your line and not fly draft? Or did you ever trade up or fly a makeup trip? Be honest here. I actually don't remember being called for draft over that time, I didn't think it existed. Did you only fly 60 hours or whatever was given on your line, for the entire time?

TonyC

I guess you weren't paying much attention at the time. The reason those seats had high BLGs was because they were undermanned. Have you ever been in an undermanned seat and tried to drop a trip? Can you spell "DENIED - INSUFFICIENT RESERVES"?

So, I guess it was OK by you for anybody to fly extra because there were B-777 and Hong Kong bubbas with relatively normal BLGs. Oh, and there were some hypocrites, too. Whatever makes you feel good.






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busdriver12

"I guess you weren't paying much attention at the time. The reason those seats had high BLGs was because they were undermanned. Have you ever been in an undermanned seat and tried to drop a trip? Can you spell "DENIED - INSUFFICIENT RESERVES"?

So, I guess it was OK by you for anybody to fly extra because there were B-777 and Hong Kong bubbas with relatively normal BLGs. Oh, and there were some hypocrites, too. Whatever makes you feel good."



I highly doubt that all of the other seat positions were unable to drop trips during that time. And I also highly doubt that anyone whatsoever was trying to lower their BLGs just to help the guys and gals affected by 4A2B, but you keep dreaming.


I have no problem with anyone trying to build up their schedule to normal levels during that time. However, that is just my personal opinion. I gave away many trips to others who were short. We are free to have our own opinions, aren't we, now? Though you are free to tell everyone else what to think.