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Old 02-07-2015, 05:50 AM
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New hires have been going to FDAs since we've had FDAs why would China care now?

On another note, FedEx is the first choice for the guy I'm sponsoring, and he's more than willing to go to an FDA with both civilian airline captain and military evaluator flight experience. However, Delta just called him for an interview so I have a feeling FedEx will be in his rearview mirror if Delta hires him.

Changing landscape for FedEx hiring for sure...
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Why would anyone want to come here with all the issues we have with fatigue, night flying, management vs. pilot group issues, company that wants to poor mouth the pilot group on a contract that should have been settled YEARS past, no flight benefits after retirement ........ WHY ??? Go somewhere else, you will feel better and look better after 25 to 30 years of flying
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I personally wouldn't want to work here without the DB Pension. To hard on the body for not having that benefit. Without the DB plan we become like everyone else...
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I personally wouldn't want to work here without the DB Pension. To hard on the body for not having that benefit. Without the DB plan we become like everyone else...
Yes. This, the relatively good pay rate, and the vacation system are the three things (not necessarily in that order) that make flying cargo for FedEx worth the life-shortening schedules.
I haven't heard any rumor of decreasing hourly pay but the other two are under attack. Any one of them presented as concessionary and you can count me out.
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Old 02-07-2015, 02:06 PM
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Direct from the lips of our HR lady today.."no new hires to HKG until the base is mainly stood up". Basically they were planning on training guys off the street and holding the current ones there to keep staffing up on the Bus during the transition.

Someone then realized that the new hires wouldn't be able to get consolidated, and would be sitting around not flying waiting for the base to open. Guy who are now in training and will activating prior to the June start date can expect to have lines with DH from to HKG to MEM or CGN to fly and get consolidation to solve the green on green that the FAA wont give us a waiver for.

They could have done that with a new guy, but decided that bouncing a new guy around the world to 3 different bases on a new airplane may not be the smartest thing.

That's why the new hire classes were canceled and the training letter was "adjusted".

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Yes. This, the relatively good pay rate, and the vacation system are the three things (not necessarily in that order) that make flying cargo for FedEx worth the life-shortening schedules.
I haven't heard any rumor of decreasing hourly pay but the other two are under attack. Any one of them presented as concessionary and you can count me out.
Completely concur!
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Why would anyone want to come here with all the issues we have with fatigue, night flying, management vs. pilot group issues, company that wants to poor mouth the pilot group on a contract that should have been settled YEARS past, no flight benefits after retirement ........ WHY ??? Go somewhere else, you will feel better and look better after 25 to 30 years of flying
Such positive energy. I bet you're a joy to fly with...
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Actually, he is.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:38 AM
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I'm very suspicious of all the new posters who have jumped in the discussion on this thread. It makes me wonder who you guys are?

Originally Posted by pilot141
We are no longer the first, second or third choice of guys getting out of the military. We are no longer the only game in town.
I don't think they care if we get the first, second, or third choice of pilots.

Originally Posted by champ42272
Couldn't agree more. My wife is a Delta pilot and they are scooping up the military pilots.
In 2014, Delta hired 455 military pilots and 509 civilians. Of the military pilots, 347 were USAF, 67 USN, 39 USMC, and 1 Coast Guard. 93% of all the pilots were male. Of the military, 8,500 flying hours was the most, 1,500 was the least, and 3,522 was the average. Of the civilians hired, 25,000 hours was the most, 2,300 was the least, 8,585 was the average. Here's the one that gets me, the oldest hired was age 61. Youngest was 27 and average was 39.

Anyway you slice it, hiring 455 military pilots in one year is a lot. I'm surprised so many were looking/available.
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
I'm very suspicious of all the new posters who have jumped in the discussion on this thread. It makes me wonder who you guys are?
Just a very interested observer.



Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
I don't think they care if we get the first, second, or third choice of pilots.
You might be right. But pretty much management guessed wrong on poolies taking FDAs. Since most poolies would be happy for the most part with the new contract pay rates, whatever they are, and already work under PBS, those are not big issues.

The 800lb gorilla is the DB plan for new hires. If you have 1. 30 years to work, 2. max out the contribution every year, 3. The market does OK and it is up when you retire, and 4. the DC plan offered is at or above the going industry rate B fund of 16% +, then it is in the ballpark of the current DB plan.

If not then interesting to see if outcome of job offers in Memphis changes the acceptance rate. Suspect it will. In the end somebody will take the job. Just not everybody.
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