JustInFacts

Really??? Which TA's were passed that were 20% below industry standard rates? If you aren't talking about pay rates, then how do you quantify items as being 20% below industry standard? When I have asked before why people came to fedex if we are so far behind, I have been told that our 2015 contract was industry leading in pay rates. When I have stated that we have been behind in pay since 2012, except for about 2 months in 2015, I have been told that I was wrong and that we raised the bar in 2015, even if it was for only a couple of months.

So, I'll ask again, which TA's did we pass that were 20% below industry standard?

hemaybedid

’99. And the pay increases since then have lagged or just kept up with inflation including TA ‘23. What I’m saying is the tried and true FedEx method hasn’t ever cut it. Now we are trying something new utilizing outside resources and proven tactics.

HvypurplePylot

Sigh. I heard we brought toys to the meeting with the NMB.

skypine27

How progressive

EMBFlyer

Teslas? Toyotas?

JustInFacts

So, the very first contract as a unionized group. Got it! So when you said TA's you were trying to exagerate.

So you say our rates have lagged, or just kept up with inflation. Our first top rate in 1999 was $183.37. Adjusted for inflation, our final rate from the 2015 contract should have been $287.11, but it wasn't. It was $335.56, or about 17% higher than inflation.

Delta's top rate at the same time was $250 and had just been negotiated for the 777. That same rate today would be $459.23. How does that compare to their current rate?

So you came here in late 2017 or early 2018. Why did you come to a place that has accepted rates 20% below industry standard? Our 12 year rates were about 15%-20% below the big three when you came here, so didn't you accept rates about 15%-20% below industry standard? Who has used a panda suit before as a proven tactic? If that isn't what you were talking about when you said proven tactics, what proven tactics are we now using that we haven't used in the past?

Huh really

Hmm, let's assume the Top Rate from the parking lot deal was 50 cents on the dollar compared to other class and craft. It would be worth 95 cents today. So, let's add in 17% more gain, thats about 98 cents rounding up. However, a dollar would be worth $1.89. When you start out behind, hard to catch up. Apples to apples might be, current rates (FDX) vs current rates (Other places) for comparative class and craft. I expect Justin to start using pay rates from Atlas or World or Kalitta for comparison.

JustInFacts

Huh, what are you talking about? There is no assuming what the rates were, we know. As far as your math skills go, a 17% gain over 95 would be a little over 111, not 98. It was stated that our rates have always lagged, or just kept up with inflation. I showed that wasn't true. I have no idea what you are talking about, and evidently you don't either.

CloudSailor

Please don't feed NoFacts, unless you like logging onto this forum to read company propaganda.

dera

World?
Might be a little late for that.