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Old 10-01-2024, 07:17 AM
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TA1: $3,800,000,000 (Effective August 2023)


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$20,570 (17) CPAP Machines @$1,210 (Effective 202x?)

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TA2: $3,800,020,570 (#winning, #ArtOfTheDeal)☹
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Old 10-01-2024, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MemphisCT757
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TA1: $3,800,000,000 (Effective August 2023)


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$20,570 (17) CPAP Machines @$1,210 (Effective 202x?)

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TA2: $3,800,020,570 (#winning, #ArtOfTheDeal)☹
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waaaaaaamhulance incoming
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Old 10-01-2024, 09:23 AM
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hey OP you have a lot to say on these forums. Did you run for a seat on the NC? Do you volunteer for any union positions? Or do you just like to disseminate worthless dribble here because you don’t actually want people to listen to what you have to say?
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If I don't need a CPAP machine can I expense a regular air compressor for my garage? That might be more useful for the majority of the constituency.
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Old 10-01-2024, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
If I don't need a CPAP machine can I expense a regular air compressor for my garage? That might be more useful for the majority of the constituency.
My favorite thing so far about the update has been the Silent Minority's focus on the CPAP instead of realizing how far behind we'd be on pay rates on upcoming openers if TA1 had passed. Not to mention being the laughing stock of the industry with having given up a pension willingly for 30k. Clown show.
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You mean how much further we are now on payrates? Guess your math is not very good. $336 is smaller than $412? Oh that's right you are expecting to get 100% retro. Kinda like that rock solid scope you are hoping for. Guess you didn't read JG email where he talked about scope hopes. Sounded pretty dismal if you ask me.

All you junior whippersnappers I thought did not like the A plan. You all think you are the next Waren Buffett with your retirement money you want a B fund like Delta. Bump was $34K to $36K a year so about $700K for most. If you get laid off for a year you only lose about $200K. Why are you so worried about Furloughs. They will only lose a small percentage of their total life time income.
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Old 10-01-2024, 04:22 PM
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Don’t worry max we will fight for our future. No matter how long it takes. Unfortunately it is a huge uphill battle because of what we have inherited. You should be ashamed. Oh, and I didn’t have a recommendation either. If I were a different person, and had a mentor who’s word I took as gospel, I’m afraid I would have voted yes on TA1 and sold away a large chunk of our flying that hasn’t already previously been sold.

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Old 10-01-2024, 05:02 PM
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You mean how much further we are now on payrates? Guess your math is not very good. $336 is smaller than $412? Oh that's right you are expecting to get 100% retro. Kinda like that rock solid scope you are hoping for. Guess you didn't read JG email where he talked about scope hopes. Sounded pretty dismal if you ask me.

All you junior whippersnappers I thought did not like the A plan. You all think you are the next Waren Buffett with your retirement money you want a B fund like Delta. Bump was $34K to $36K a year so about $700K for most. If you get laid off for a year you only lose about $200K. Why are you so worried about Furloughs. They will only lose a small percentage of their total life time income.
​​​​​Had we voted TA1 in with those rates we would have told the company "we are worth less than our competitors" and thus treated as such in each successive cycle.

Sorry not sorry to die on the hill of being the ***** asses who voted not to sell our worth for your measly pension bump.
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Fighting for your future? More like following a lemming off the cliff. TC suckered all of you into thinking he was the great savior. You read the lastest NC comms? Did sound so Braveheart inspiring charging up the hill for a big win. Company already knows we are a bunch of simps, they follow JF and APC.

Go ahead a wait for some number you dream about, by the time you get it the majors will already be a contract ahead and ahead on money again. Every day we fall further behind. Hard concept for you to grasp.

Raj and his NC realize how great a position they are in. a Union led by nonstop polls that have wishes for pink ponnies and rainbow skittles. Meanwhile they are saving millions a month.

JG did not sound so confident on some big scope win. More like we will be lucky to keep what we have.
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Old 10-02-2024, 07:50 AM
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TC suckered all of you into thinking he was the great savior.
False. He was the one and only rep unafraid to expose the TA as a steaming pile of trash. Meanwhile the other 13 submissively voted in favor of it, likely because PM kept palying the same record on repeat proclaiming it was the best deal we're going to get.
The result of TC was months of uncovering the realities of all the concessions...and a group of grouchy peeps creating a Screaming Minority echo chamber to scream at each other, share frustrations, complain about their social security not being funded, promoting furlough, and so on. So, who are the real losers here?
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