Moosefire

Honest statement. Someone tell me why I should be impressed by MH. Been here 8 years... pay pretty close attention to things, and have not been impressed.

opt0712

And a "why" from the union would be nice. Interesting move if true right before we get a look at October prelims

PW305

Don't know him personally, but MH has always been quick to respond to my questions and comments over the years. I respect him for that, since I can’t say the same for others.

easyflyer

Nobody cares if the SIG is quick to respond to questions. They're also quick to roll over, hand the company what they want, and make you fly it. There have been zero improvements in our QOL the entire time I have worked here. Fly it first, grieve it later. That always ends up in our favor right? They are supposed to be our advocate and not a company apologist. You think these guys are going to help bring us an industry leading contract with any improvements? How did TA 1.0 work out for us with this SIG? And how many ended up as duty officers?

"We need data to prove that flying multiple legs starting at 2am is causing pilot fatigue. Without those reports we cannot change anything." What a joke. With advocates like these guys, who needs a union in the first place.

WAKE UP PEOPLE.

JustInFacts

Honest question, what do you think the SIG's job is and what would it take to impress you?

JustInFacts

Please tell us how the SIG is quick to roll over and hand the company what it wants. Fly first and grieve it later isn't Fedex specific, you should know this coming from another ALPA carrier. Tell us the SIG members that have become duty officers in the less than 4 years you have been here. Why are you against providing data? How many times have you called out fatigued or filled out a fatigue report.

easyflyer

My two posts have been full of examples. The sunrise sort made the company plenty of money and it was horrendous. Plenty of sequences remain awful.

If you are unaware of the duty officers that have come from the SIG, you are not paying attention. I am not putting names here. We don't need management deals originating from being excessively cooperative on scheduling.

JustInFacts

So, your two posts were full of examples???? You were at Delta in the fall of 2020, yet remember that all of our west coast layovers were 24 hours. Who hasn't been paying attention? What power did the SIG have for the sunrise sort? What power do they have to change the pairings that the company builds? What are you doing to help the change other than making anonymus posts? If there are a signigicant number of SIG members who have become duty officers in the less than 4 years you have been here, you could always PM that information.

HelpABrotherOut

I'm sorry, but this smacks of someone who doesn't know how the processes work.

1. Fly first, grieve later is a Raiway Labor Act requirement. Not a shortcoming of ALPA or any other labor group that operates under the RLA.

2. There's nothing they've rolled over on. It's the other way around, they are constantly (monthly) pushing back on what the company is trying to get you to do. Company builds the pairings, not the SIG/PSIT.

3. Sunset sort was a debacle that the company surprised us with. ALPA used the disputed pairing process to force the change. If you don't like it now, you would've hated it before ALPA pushback.

4. QOL improvements come from either 1) the goodwill of the company (HA!), or 2) through bargaining.

5. The requirement for data is because the company never thinks there is a problem without a mountain of evidence, again not a shortcoming of ALPA/SIG, etc....

I think your angst is misdirected. Company builds the pairings and creates the pain through optimization. I'd suggest talking to your manager and voicing your displeasure with them.

Anthrax

Having worked in the SIG, I can say first hand that our chair is very cozy with our VP. That our SIG chair pushes back on nothing. That plenty of SIG folks move directly into management. That our terrible 2015 contract was negotiated by a SIG dude, supported by the SIG, and when there was pushback against that contract our SIG was instrumental in the failed recall of certain block reps.
The SIG chair needs to go yesterday.
These guys camp out in these jobs so that they don’t have to fly the crappy lines they build.
Yes, the company builds the pairings, but mostly the SIG does very little as pilot advocates.
And the SIG strongly supported TA1 and openly said that if doesn’t pass there will likely be furloughs. The SIG chair, along with PM, spread fear and uncertainty so as advance a TA with weak scope, tons of concessions, but a nice retirement bump for people like the SIG chair.
If the union truly wishes to change directions, these old-school folks need to go!
And don’t give me bs about how knowledgeable he is at the job. It ain’t that hard. A regional hire could learn it in a week. maybe two.