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05-15-2024, 12:06 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 577
Not talking about TA1, talking about the TC8 taking over with all thier big talk and nothing really happening. We would be a lot further along with the mediator. JG's email was hardly inspiring for a big win like some think they were going to get.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
05-15-2024, 12:25 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Posts: 190
Not talking about TA1, talking about the TC8 taking over with all thier big talk and nothing really happening. We would be a lot further along with the mediator. JG's email was hardly inspiring for a big win like some think they were going to get.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
Assuming you are referencing the pension, what was the argument against going that route? They just tried it, would be interested in how they deemed it acceptable now but not in 2015.
05-15-2024, 02:58 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 689
Company proposed a different retirement plan than the A plan for those hired after 2015 contract. No specifics as to what exactly it was becasue the negotiating committee and the union shot it down. Main reason was that it would split the crew force.
If the company knew in 2015 that they would hire 1500+ pilots after 2015 they would have thrown piles of money at our A plan to split up the retirements for those after hired afterwards.
What changed now? Comapny hired younger pilots than before and the majors negotiated much better retirement packages than they had using mostly a bigger B fund. So more want what thier friends at Delta have.
If the company knew in 2015 that they would hire 1500+ pilots after 2015 they would have thrown piles of money at our A plan to split up the retirements for those after hired afterwards.
What changed now? Comapny hired younger pilots than before and the majors negotiated much better retirement packages than they had using mostly a bigger B fund. So more want what thier friends at Delta have.
05-16-2024, 10:53 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 1,051
05-16-2024, 02:36 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 106
Not talking about TA1, talking about the TC8 taking over with all thier big talk and nothing really happening. We would be a lot further along with the mediator. JG's email was hardly inspiring for a big win like some think they were going to get.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
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05-16-2024, 03:21 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 705
Not talking about TA1, talking about the TC8 taking over with all thier big talk and nothing really happening. We would be a lot further along with the mediator. JG's email was hardly inspiring for a big win like some think they were going to get.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
Further, the TC8 has been in for a month. Your former boys had over 3 years and brought us nothing but a concession laden TA that was voted down. Hardly a comparison.
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05-16-2024, 03:56 PM
#17
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 106
Inflation is 20% since Nov 2020. Houses are 47% more expensive since then.
We’d be at a 17% pay raise under TA1 right now.
Hopefully we’ve learned our lesson that sacrificing pay today for deferred compensation later is not a wise financial move, especially with 40 year high inflation.
We’d be at a 17% pay raise under TA1 right now.
Hopefully we’ve learned our lesson that sacrificing pay today for deferred compensation later is not a wise financial move, especially with 40 year high inflation.
Thanks for also pointing out the fact that those measly rates didn’t even keep up with inflation.
05-16-2024, 03:56 PM
#18
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 689
Been quite on here, guess all the cry babies got thier pacifiers like they wanted. Figured I would stir it up a little.
They had three years, TC8 could not wait another month? Like in sports, if you brag, showboat and are a big mouth, better produce some numbers.
They had three years, TC8 could not wait another month? Like in sports, if you brag, showboat and are a big mouth, better produce some numbers.
05-16-2024, 04:17 PM
#19
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Posts: 705
Another month? For what? More Concessions? And industry lagging yet again? Your crew already wasted 9+ months by not resigning. Seems the only ones needing a pacifier were the ones we voted out kicking and screaming. And now you're mad at the TC8 for not doing anything after a month?
05-16-2024, 05:02 PM
#20
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Joined APC: May 2024
Posts: 16
Not talking about TA1, talking about the TC8 taking over with all thier big talk and nothing really happening. We would be a lot further along with the mediator. JG's email was hardly inspiring for a big win like some think they were going to get.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
What we learned is that in 2015 we should have left off any new hire after the 2015 contract like the company wanted and gone after big raises and an increase in retirement. Instead we looked out for future hires to only have them go after money for themselves. Guess inflation does not affect those retiring with out any increase in retirement pay. Glad it will work out for you money bags.
Continue preaching on please max82 My retirement paper’s will be submitted in four yeers and will be given the pention we sacrifices so the new servis pilot could benefit so much.
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