opas76

Roger, thanks.

FlapJack

Was his answer not palatable to the majority? Imagine if he'd said, 'your future here is in no doubt secure', 'you have nothing to worry about' (no matter how junior) 'everything's going to be fine' 'uncle Fred's going to take care of you and won't let anything happen', 'You have my word'

Stan446

Our polls didn't ask a lot of stuff. But the polls when we went into negotiations, 2yrs ago, favored pension improvements as number one. Pilot demographics changed and here we are. But our junior group wants it all while facing a loss of a USPS contract and all day flying going away. I guess TA1 wasn't so bad. Good luck getting anything close to that now. I've said it before, You'll get DL payrates at the loss of everything else, no scope, no QOL improvements. Seems pretty easy now from a company point of view. If you didn't think layoffs were coming, they are.
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opt0712

A simple "Yes, you have a future here" or actually answering the question would have been sufficient to any majority.

Hacker15e

Those polls never asked, "what would you be willing to concede in order to get an FAE increase". Has nothing to do with the "new" majority -- plenty of people who were on property before 2016 thought the TA stunk, too.

CloudSailor

Watch the MEC's youtube reply to the town hall if you couldn't watch live. Excellent synthesis of what transpired.

MEC JN has my respect.

Had the pleasure of flying with him in "the Boeing", good stick.

windshearmaxthr

The company has already come up from the failed TA so I’m not sure where you are getting that we won’t get anything close to that? Scope, if not fixed will be dead on arrival. I do want it all, the company is responsible for things such as the usps contract and new biz, that’s what they get paid the big bucks for, the failed ta had no value in weather or not we kept usps like you are insinuating. If what you say is going to happen, this would get past the MEC how? I am prepared to vote no again or start over somewhere else, what I won’t do is bend the knee to a corporation that has been profitable and buying back stock valued at multiple times a pilot TA value. At this point for me it’s for the principle of it, and I believe I am in the majority.

UnusualAttitude

Our polling data dated back to 2016 and a singular goal (retirement gains at all costs) was determined almost as soon as, if not before, CBA2015 was ratified. Unfortunately, FDX ALPA, under the previous leadership, the MEC reps and NC failed to acknowledge the gains made by other ALPA represented pilots (pattern baragining expectations) coupled with the changing demographic of the pilot group and rapidly evolving corporate goals. TA 1.0 shouldn't have ever been presented for a vote but the NC and MEC were desperately hanging on to the possibility of a 50%+1 vote in favor in order to reward their targeted benefactors at all costs. There is no correlation between the failed TA and the loss of the USPS flying. Despite what was said at the town hall today, the majority of Purple pilots do not view themselves as "cargo pilots" but we do view ourselves as "professional airline pilots" and there is a market for the service that we provide and the market dictates expectations. The corporation does not get a discount on fuel because that fuel is being uploaded to a jet flying cargo as opposed to people. The corporation should not expect a discount on the cost of pilot services either. No one should be surprised that Purple pilots want their jobs protected (Scope) and the fact that the previous NC acknowledged the concerns but dismissed them will forever be a stain on FDX ALPA. It's a shame that we are in this position but here we are. We can move on together or continue to play a revisionist history game of "I told you so" that will only delay our forward progress.

Are layoffs coming? We were told today that as of now we expect to be overstaffed for one year. We were told that international flying will increase and there is ongoing discussion on pushing back retirement date of the MD11 in order to be in a position to secure opportunities that could present themselves. The truth is we still don't know where we are with staffing considering the loss of USPS, much of which was already planned to be pulled back and was accounted for in staffing models. Age 65 retirements are accellerating, attrition to other airlines continues at an indeterminable pace. Layoffs could happen but I don't think that is certain and claiming such is premature.

Anthrax

In previous negotiations, the company was happy to compare us to top tier passenger carriers of which the pilots were making less than FDX pilots because it was cost effective to do so. now that we are being left in the dust, suddenly they only want to compare us to cargo pilots. third tier cargo pilots. this place i swear.

Nightflyer

There was a post on Jetflyers comparing FedEx CEO pay to United, Delta, and American. It is worth looking up.

If they want to pay us like cargo pilots, perhaps the same should apply to executive compensation.