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Old 04-07-2024, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JustInFacts
And isn't that part of this business? If you are junior holding a seat senior for your relative position, you may get displaced.

You mention low BLG's. Aren't they being bought up to minimums? The difference between historic BLG's and min BLG isn't that great. The problem is that many counted on the COVID gravy train to last forever. Maybe we should feel sorry for the 777 or HKG captains that can no longer make $700,000 or more in a year. By your reasoning, they have had their pay rates cut too.

Many of the pilots that I fly with agree with moneybags and would like a choice to get out of the pension and take a large DC plan, or the proposed MBCBP. If polling suggests that a large majority of those pilots hired since 2015 want that option, shouldn't it be considered?
No, the COMPANY expected the gravy train to continue after Covid. “We need 7000 pilots!” remember that?

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Old 04-07-2024, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JustInFacts
I am also happy that Fedex is looking for higher margain business. They aren't here to pay pilots, they are here to make a profit. That is the best job security IMO.
They should just dissolve the Express segment and chase those juicy 11% and 16% margins for Ground and Freight. After all, they’re not here to pay pilots. Right?
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Old 04-07-2024, 11:28 AM
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They should just dissolve the Express segment and chase those juicy 11% and 16% margins for Ground and Freight. After all, they’re not here to pay pilots. Right?
pretty hard to truck fron China
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Old 04-07-2024, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
...I've been advocating to get rid of [the A Plan] for 22 years...
We could only wish they'd listened to your genius perspective and we had given away our Pension 22 years ago!!! This place would be stellar without it. LOL

What a foolish way to look at our retirment.

We are our own worst enemy. More at this property than any other airline that I know of. I don't get it.

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Old 04-07-2024, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Maddog64
pretty hard to truck fron China
Why bother with that if they’re only netting 2.5%?

These are rhetorical questions in response to NoWork. I would think most of us want jobs… but with some in this thread I’m starting to wonder.
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Old 04-07-2024, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Maddog64
pretty hard to truck fron China
Your inability to detect sarcasm hurts my soul.
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Old 04-07-2024, 02:35 PM
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So since the Union said if the TA didn't pass, we would furlough 800. But if it did pass and we lost the USPS contract, would we still furlough?
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Old 04-07-2024, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
So since the Union said if the TA didn't pass, we would furlough 800. But if it did pass and we lost the USPS contract, would we still furlough?
Good point and with the loss of the contract does that immediately add to any overage of flyers at Purple as Brown is hiring for it? Probably pushes any hiring a bit further out is a guess?
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Old 04-07-2024, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
We could only wish they'd listened to your genius perspective and we had given away our Pension 22 years ago!!! This place would be stellar without it. LOL

What a foolish way to look at our retirment.

We are our own worst enemy. More at this property than any other airline that I know of. I don't get it.
It’s because you’ve proved you’re clueless about the pensions risks. And maybe others have different opinions and/or risk tolerance/understanding than you. What’s a good retirement for you isn’t true for someone much younger.
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
Speculative. What’s not speculation is we are losing 300 pilots’ worth of flying to our biggest competitor.
Are you saying it is speculation that USPS has officially stated they are shifting to 95% going by land, 5% going by air? It sounds like you are reading something into it, more that what I stated as this fact. And then you are stating this fact as speculation.
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