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Old 02-16-2024, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jackryan
It’s not just the TA. It’s DRIVE, it’s seeing many of the reasons you came here no longer an option (FDA), it’s toxic pilot culture, it’s a borderline unprofessional relationship between management and union, it’s the good ole boys club of Collierville mentality. It’s lack of quality bases. It’s the difficult flying we do for discount wages. It’s several months pending expense reports. It’s the hotels, it’s hearing our foreign partners aren’t growing, when in fact they are. It’s, on and on and on.

It’s not just the TA, but it certainly revealed to many what this job really is. People are leaving and yes, they are certainly happy elsewhere. Even with the loss of seniority.

Go ahead and wish them ill-will, because that’s what helps you rationalize your career choices and helps you sleep better at night. They’ll be just fine.
Its a job, no matter where you are and guys are going to learn that the hard way.
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Old 02-16-2024, 08:17 AM
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The predictability of Stan’s responses would be comical if it weren’t so pathetic.

Stan’s APC Checklist:

- Read a hurtful truth about FedEx.
- Claim the statement is untrue without providing any supporting information.
- Get proven wrong again by multiple respondents.
- Dismiss the issue at hand entirely and resort to personal attacks.
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Old 02-16-2024, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 100 Continue

why is any of this shocking to you. This is the same place that was firing pilots over the phone when the company received pria records requests while telling us we are overstaffed. This place is toxic and run more like a regional than a career destination.
Shocking? Not sure why you ask that? This has nothing to do with my question about recent NOQs. I am just trying to get past the pointless personal attack tennis match and actually understand more about the NOQ topic that continues to come into this discussion but no one seems to have any real facts about it. 318 has made some "interesting" claims but has gone quiet. Baseless/rumor? More to the story? Anyone have any substance on this? Otherwise this match will never get past deuce.
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Old 02-16-2024, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ogarmyopar
this 100% happened. It was corrected and changed after the outrage but it happened and that’s all you need to know about this company.

And don’t worry you beautiful purple bleeding memphis loving bubba I’m working on ways out as we speak because unfortunately guys like you have let this place become so stale and industry trailing this is no longer a desirable place to work. You would need 3 home run TA’s to fix all the issues this place has and we can’t even hit a double on the first one.
ogarmyopar, if you have plans elsewhere, why even bother wrestling in this mud pit? You can't be getting anything out of it. Recommend going to your next gig and never look back. I seriously wish you well and hope you find what you are looking for.
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Old 02-16-2024, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Its a job, no matter where you are and guys are going to learn that the hard way.
Actually, it’s a career. But we’ve allowed far many free passes. The “it’s good enough” crowd turned this into a job. They turned it into a place people run from.

This seniority list has lost a lot of good people. And a bad system will beat a good person every time.
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Old 02-16-2024, 08:54 AM
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Never happened but nice try. If it sucks, there's other places, but wait, inaction and complaining is what its all about, right?

You are correct, it wasn’t firing, it was a forced resignation of a pilot who was on probation. Practically the same thing. Union was no help, go figure.
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Old 02-16-2024, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Its a job, no matter where you are and guys are going to learn that the hard way.
Its a contract job. a union job. meaning we have a say in how this job is performed. and for far too long guys like you have agreed to negative terms for a cost of living pay bump. to the point where if you aren’t in the top 25 percent of your seat, the work rules are not only onerous, but detrimental to your health. (although the top 25 percent aren’t immune, either.)

it was only a matter of time before the pilots working under these conditions stood up and said enough is enough. not you. because these concessions clearly don’t apply to you.

over the course of my 22 year career here, we have horse traded ourselves out of QOL, and we still make less than our counterparts.

for some odd reason, you can’t see the obvious. actually, the reason isn’t that odd. you want an increase in the pension because you are set to retire soon, but all these years and contracts you weren’t willing to fight for a pension bump. you voted YES on all those contracts, which increased the pension zero dollars.

and now you’re mad because you finally got the pension bump (well below inflation adjustments) in a TA that was voted down due to even more ridiculous concessions.

Tell us again how the TA was going to pass. and how you were LOL at those who said it wouldn’t.
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Old 02-16-2024, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
And so will you get another 5 years.

The only people who got screwed at FX by the change from 60 to 65 were the guys who had captain bids taken away when there was a new bid to bring back the over 60 guys on the panel. Everyone else gets another 5 years of income and longevity.
That's a load of crap right there pal. I didn't have a left seat bid in and I definitely got screwed. Go ahead and tell anyone who got excessed from a right seat to the panel, or from an international wide body right seat to a domestic narrow body right seat that they didn't get screwed. That is one of the most tone deaf posts I've seen from you yet. Just go away already.
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Old 02-16-2024, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Its a job, no matter where you are and guys are going to learn that the hard way.
That’s the thing, you have been inside the FedEx think tank for so long, you don’t know any better. It’s really okay, it’s not your fault. Since the dysfunction of FedEx is your normal, you assume all other jobs are experiencing the same thing you are. It’s different elsewhere, and for the better. And there are many more like you among the group at purple.
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Old 02-16-2024, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Anthrax
Its a contract job. a union job. meaning we have a say in how this job is performed. and for far too long guys like you have agreed to negative terms for a cost of living pay bump. to the point where if you aren’t in the top 25 percent of your seat, the work rules are not only onerous, but detrimental to your health. (although the top 25 percent aren’t immune, either.)

it was only a matter of time before the pilots working under these conditions stood up and said enough is enough. not you. because these concessions clearly don’t apply to you.

over the course of my 22 year career here, we have horse traded ourselves out of QOL, and we still make less than our counterparts.

for some odd reason, you can’t see the obvious. actually, the reason isn’t that odd. you want an increase in the pension because you are set to retire soon, but all these years and contracts you weren’t willing to fight for a pension bump. you voted YES on all those contracts, which increased the pension zero dollars.

and now you’re mad because you finally got the pension bump (well below inflation adjustments) in a TA that was voted down due to even more ridiculous concessions.

Tell us again how the TA was going to pass. and how you were LOL at those who said it wouldn’t.
Scream that from the halls of AOC. To the JF crowd. And especially the SM.
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