Any reason to stay at FedEx 40s or younger?
11-07-2023, 02:59 PM
#33
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You still beating that drum? Which third party lift is growing? ASL is not growing. Belly freight is an issue -- always has been an issue. It makes sense in some markets where we don't fly to.
While I voted no, and the changed scope language was just the tip of the iceberg as to why I voted no, I don't think the sky if falling when it comes to scope at FedEx.
While I voted no, and the changed scope language was just the tip of the iceberg as to why I voted no, I don't think the sky if falling when it comes to scope at FedEx.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/ex...ralias-pionair
TA 2.0 was reached in July 23, so 9 months is accurate. You're splitting hairs.
11-07-2023, 09:13 PM
#38
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If you believe anything UA management says anymore than you believe FDX management, you are mistaken. The pax airlines will continue to hire - until they furlough.
With Fred gone, FDX is just another corporation and any semblance of personal pride or emotional investment on the part of HQ departed as well (see WN). FDX IS NOW THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER CORPORATION.
If you want to restart your career repeatedly just to go through the same crap elsewhere, knock yourself out. I don't think you'd be giving up anything special but don't believe that you'd be gaining anything special. UA has had "an insane new contract" before - just prior to their pilots embarking on a decades-long trip through hell. Aircraft orders are historically meaningless. I do believe that you'll be allowed to select the implied gender of your uniform sooner at UA if that's what you're after. Other than that - same old $h!t everywhere.
The only advantage you'll get at FDX is the same as it ever was. If Vlad and the Ayatollah drive oil to $200, you'll be better off at FDX. FDX has always been the tortoise and pax carriers the hare - pick your poison (pro tip - it's all poison).
With Fred gone, FDX is just another corporation and any semblance of personal pride or emotional investment on the part of HQ departed as well (see WN). FDX IS NOW THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER CORPORATION.
If you want to restart your career repeatedly just to go through the same crap elsewhere, knock yourself out. I don't think you'd be giving up anything special but don't believe that you'd be gaining anything special. UA has had "an insane new contract" before - just prior to their pilots embarking on a decades-long trip through hell. Aircraft orders are historically meaningless. I do believe that you'll be allowed to select the implied gender of your uniform sooner at UA if that's what you're after. Other than that - same old $h!t everywhere.
The only advantage you'll get at FDX is the same as it ever was. If Vlad and the Ayatollah drive oil to $200, you'll be better off at FDX. FDX has always been the tortoise and pax carriers the hare - pick your poison (pro tip - it's all poison).
11-08-2023, 03:46 AM
#39
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I’ve been trying to stay positive about this place, but I’m now considering leaving despite having about 5.5 years seniority. I have about 20 years left, and as much as I hate to start over I just don’t want to stay at a dying airline. I live in a large United base, so I’m at least contemplating a reboot over there.
It makes me physically ill to think of starting over somewhere, but I have a major loss of confidence in this company and the leadership on flight ops.
Is there a reason why I should stay here? Is all this doom and gloom just a 4D chess negotiating tactic? Anyone else contemplating leaving with a good chunk of seniority invested?
It makes me physically ill to think of starting over somewhere, but I have a major loss of confidence in this company and the leadership on flight ops.
Is there a reason why I should stay here? Is all this doom and gloom just a 4D chess negotiating tactic? Anyone else contemplating leaving with a good chunk of seniority invested?
If you are truly unhappy at Fedex, then yes, you should pursue other options. But first, ask yourself why you are unhappy, and is it a temporary thing or have you been unhappy for years.
Leaving now, you will give up your A plan. By the time you get to that other airline, that is about $31,200 per year in retirement for life. How long would it take you to make that up with their DC plan?
The Fedex fleet is 70% wide body with about 85% of our pilots holding a wide body seat. UAL is about 75% narrow body. How long would it take you to make more at UAL than FDX if we had approved the TA at those pay rates? The next TA will have higher rates.
What do you think of QOL under PBS if you decide to chase upgrades? How long until you get the same number of hours of vacation?
I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other, these are just a few questions I would ask myself if I were considering leaving.
11-08-2023, 04:46 AM
#40
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It's a tough decision, but here is my take. First, the grass is always greener on the other side. However, after living on the other side, you start to see the weeds and discover that the look from the other side isn't always the best view of what is happening.
If you are truly unhappy at Fedex, then yes, you should pursue other options. But first, ask yourself why you are unhappy, and is it a temporary thing or have you been unhappy for years.
Leaving now, you will give up your A plan. By the time you get to that other airline, that is about $31,200 per year in retirement for life. How long would it take you to make that up with their DC plan?
The Fedex fleet is 70% wide body with about 85% of our pilots holding a wide body seat. UAL is about 75% narrow body. How long would it take you to make more at UAL than FDX if we had approved the TA at those pay rates? The next TA will have higher rates.
What do you think of QOL under PBS if you decide to chase upgrades? How long until you get the same number of hours of vacation?
I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other, these are just a few questions I would ask myself if I were considering leaving.
If you are truly unhappy at Fedex, then yes, you should pursue other options. But first, ask yourself why you are unhappy, and is it a temporary thing or have you been unhappy for years.
Leaving now, you will give up your A plan. By the time you get to that other airline, that is about $31,200 per year in retirement for life. How long would it take you to make that up with their DC plan?
The Fedex fleet is 70% wide body with about 85% of our pilots holding a wide body seat. UAL is about 75% narrow body. How long would it take you to make more at UAL than FDX if we had approved the TA at those pay rates? The next TA will have higher rates.
What do you think of QOL under PBS if you decide to chase upgrades? How long until you get the same number of hours of vacation?
I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other, these are just a few questions I would ask myself if I were considering leaving.
What I'm getting at is there are literally thousands of captains and FOs at all the airlines that are 100% happy with narrow body so the camp in those seats - much like the 59 year old FO's and RFOs at the tippy top of their bid category here at FedEx.
If I were original poster, the way the playing field is right now, you bet I'd be making the jump. I have United friends sitting widebody FO that are 50% in category and theyve been at United in about the time Raj started changing everything.
Now is the time some of our crew force opens their aperture to the current playing field vice how they remember it in the 90s and the lost decade.
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