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Old 08-29-2024, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
Never forget that they created this overmanning. They may try to make it our problem but shrinking the airline and growing the OUTSOURCED air network is 100% their doing. Air cargo demand is not down that much right now no matter what lies they peddle. The company is the one who over-hired and then changed the system form to expand as much third-party lift as they can so in my opinion they can un-**** it. Not my, or your, or any other pilot’s problem, it’s their problem.
Well done….can this be reposted over and over!

This is not our problem to solve, if we are truly overmanned please direct me to any impactful or substantial measure executed by management to ease the situation they caused.

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Old 08-30-2024, 05:58 AM
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No, it's not our problem to solve, but we'll feel the pain of the measures that mangement takes to resolve the issue.
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Old 08-30-2024, 10:22 AM
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Tactics that'll be used include..........

"Today, I want to bring to your attention an important issue. We all know that our flying will drastically change beginning with the October bid period due to the end of the USPS contract. However, regrettably, we are about to face further significant challenges with our October schedules. The ALPA SIG members informed me this week that October's preliminary pairings reflect a substantial degradation in overall quality, rest opportunities, and line construction incompatibilities, among other issues. Our domestic system is most notably affected, although the international system will experience reduced layover times and other efficiencies.

At my request, the ALPA SIG briefed the Negotiating Committee and myself. They have also interacted with the MEC. Here's what we learned: the parameters of the pairing construction have been drastically altered and rolled back to contractual minimums in some cases, exposing the current deficiencies in our Agreement. The resulting pairings have generated tremendous challenges for your PSIT in the reviewing process and will continue to do so during "the build" next week. Quite conceivably, unless fixed, there will be disputed pairings, as there are pairing construction patterns that currently fall well outside the Statement of Intent in CBA Section 25.BB.A.2. However, I am pleased to inform you that the PSIT has diligently worked overtime on your behalf, and continues to do so.

Even though the PSIT members will do their best to salvage your October flying, we must be realists. There is only so much they can do. As your MEC Chair, I am particularly displeased that the Company would take such a difficult situation as the advent of the first month in 23 years of no daylight Post Office flying and further compound our collective difficulties by removing the governors on the pairing construction software. This move, coupled with our commuting challenges, will generate unneeded and undesired chaos, frustration, and uncertainty for our members.

Unfortunately, I have seen this scenario play out before in striking similarity. In May of 1998, the VP of Flight Operations allowed the constraints on the "optimizer," as it was known, to be significantly loosened for the June build. Our pilots were appalled at the results. That month was the worst flying in our history! On the positive side, our pilots unified and professionally persevered.

Your teammates at the MEC and ALPA National levels are acutely aware of these issues and their potential impact on your working and personal lives. We have your backs! Make no mistake: The other team has committed a serious misstep here, and that's unfortunate."

I'm all in!
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Old 08-30-2024, 10:28 AM
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No, it's not our problem to solve, but we'll feel the pain of the measures that mangement takes to resolve the issue.
What would be the level of pain if we had passed the TA with the weakening of scope?
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Old 08-30-2024, 10:33 AM
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What would be the level of pain if we had passed the TA with the weakening of scope?
That's a moot point, right? We have to deal with the reality that we're currently faced with. Anything else is a waste of energy at this juncture.
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I cannot wait to see these bidpacks! Sounds like it will be a complete dumpster fire
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We just got Mooked again...

Really surprised by this move bcz it does show how bad Sec 12 and Sec 25 can be. . Would love to see a side by side comparison of rest requirements of our contemporaries.
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Originally Posted by Thrust Hold
That's a moot point, right? We have to deal with the reality that we're currently faced with. Anything else is a waste of energy at this juncture.
I beg to differ sir. A very teachable moment for those FS loyalists who still think this management team is for P.S.P. They don't care guys. That company no longer exists and you best take scope seriously.
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I beg to differ sir. A very teachable moment for those FS loyalists who still think this management team is for P.S.P. They don't care guys. That company no longer exists and you best take scope seriously.
I just want to know when we can start using our levers. We still have levers, right? I’m all in!
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn
I beg to differ sir. A very teachable moment for those FS loyalists who still think this management team is for P.S.P. They don't care guys. That company no longer exists and you best take scope seriously.
Shareholder value, stock price and executive bonuses generated by meeting metrics that have nothing to do with the underlying mission of the Company are the flavor of the day and have been for the last several years. Anyone who just reads the FCIFs can skip reading what the executives say when interviewed. We have gone from "Absolutely, Positively" to "we are willing to accept diverts if it saves some fuel". This is a good-paying job with a management team who would like nothing more than to get rid of all employees and replace them all with automation and/or outsource to the cheapest vendor. The old interview adage of "I want to work at a verb" because FedEx was a noun and a verb is long gone. Maybe, someday they will be able to cut their way to profitability...
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