Any reason to stay at FedEx 40s or younger?
#331
In other words, it was more of a veiled Without You (prelude of what's to come), than an actual genuine offer to the line pilots.
Allegedly.
#332
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correction: Management even offered us to resign from the FDX seniority list and go fly for PSA for a cash prize, paid by PSA, as a "good option". When all legacies were hiring.
In other words, it was more of a veiled Without You (prelude of what's to come), than an actual genuine offer to the line pilots.
Allegedly.
In other words, it was more of a veiled Without You (prelude of what's to come), than an actual genuine offer to the line pilots.
Allegedly.
TL was better.
#333
it’s all cyclical in this business. Go back a few years and we were kicking booty and UPS wasn’t hiring. Now we celebrate adding a new 757 to Honduras while UPS takes more day flying than they can handle. Just go to the company that gives you the best commute and least stress while on the clock. We’re all mostly happy with each other while at work but this negotiation cycle sure has been a doozy as far as making me never trust the company again for any reason. Also, if any manager ever says “Bravo Zulu” again I’m going to vomit. Just get us an Amazon gift card already.
I have wanted to think that I made the right call about cargo. Not so sure now. For the last 25-30 years, a fdx career was top notch, likely topping airline pax peers in most metrics. A phenomenal run. But the next 25 years - for you guys who'll fly that long - my slightly educated guess would be that pax carriers where it's at for the average line guy. What do I know though? Here I am, at this outfit selling away its future for CASH NOW.
I wish this was all the masterfully executed doom & gloom crafted by the very well-paid and trained negotiators who work at legal. But again, that's just a wish - the reality is: corporate is in full stock buyback mode and this goes beyond negotiations. Investing in the company and its people is a thing of the past. Aiming at maintaining our product reliability and even maybe even Improving our product? Don't think so.
A DRAMATIC management/culture shift has taken place here in 3 years, and it's not because we are in the down part of the airline cycle. It's because the pax airline "management" mentality (jam-stuffing pant pockets with cash) has arrived on property. Allegedly.
I know most of us on property are aware of all this, with the exception of numb-skulled company apologists like LuckyvsGood and JustInFacts (both probably can't wait for a Bravo Zulu with their name on it).
I am only taking the time to write this for those on the outside looking in, for whenever hiring ever resumes.
Disclaimer: another gift from Wuhan could change things in a hurry.
Last edited by CloudSailor; 08-17-2024 at 07:57 AM.
#334
Outside looking in from another cargo outfit not Brown. Just another perspective which means nothing at the moment, but it not only seems Purple is being dumbed down to an unfortunate "new normal" way of business for now but also in preparation for other possible new business opportunities. Past three years or so: New management, additional management added with ACMI background, Network 2.0, then Drive and the latest being Tricolor seems to be driving Purple into more profitable/opportunistic lanes. Some other outfits have made some gains in areas not too far behind the top two box handlers which makes myself and a few others wonder if there might be a securing of these other outfits to corner the large aircraft market in the long haul long contract arena which is very lucrative.
Fedex disconnected from USPS meanwhile there have been other ties broken from low profit margin areas by another seems to show focus on heavy profitable lift in this industry. Give this viewpoint a couple of years to see what irons out regarding a much bigger plan at Purple.
Fedex disconnected from USPS meanwhile there have been other ties broken from low profit margin areas by another seems to show focus on heavy profitable lift in this industry. Give this viewpoint a couple of years to see what irons out regarding a much bigger plan at Purple.
#335
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Fedex disconnected from USPS meanwhile there have been other ties broken from low profit margin areas by another seems to show focus on heavy profitable lift in this industry. Give this viewpoint a couple of years to see what irons out regarding a much bigger plan at Purple.
FedEx Corp is not in trouble. They’re doing just fine. They’re still making money, and they probably always will. The problem as it relates to this discussion is that they are trimming fat in the most capital-intensive areas of the corporation: ie the airline.
There are 600,000 FedEx employees. Less than 1% are pilots. It’s REALLY expensive to get $hit to your house on an airplane. It’s really cheap to get it there in a truck.
If anyone can’t read the tea leaves by now, I’m not sure what to tell you. It sucks - bad - and it’s not getting better.
Again, just my opinion. Fire away.
#336
FedEx began as an airline. Became a multi billion dollar Fortune 50 airline. Now it’s a company, that has no desire to be an airline. Our ****ty scope and or the labor benefit of being under the RLA (for non pilot labor… if they are able to hold onto that after One FedEx) is the only reason some airplanes will remain on property in the future. Pilots here were fooled into thinking scope wasn’t important because of the way the old FedEx did business, that is, the pilots who knew what scope was until recently. Our only real hope in my opinion is once these corporate raiders have their way and move on, they bring a new team in with “new” ideas to fix the damage that was done. Their “new” ideas of course won’t be new.
#337
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Dude, my opinion is worth what you paid for it, but in my eyes the plan is obvious.
FedEx Corp is not in trouble. They’re doing just fine. They’re still making money, and they probably always will. The problem as it relates to this discussion is that they are trimming fat in the most capital-intensive areas of the corporation: ie the airline.
There are 600,000 FedEx employees. Less than 1% are pilots. It’s REALLY expensive to get $hit to your house on an airplane. It’s really cheap to get it there in a truck.
If anyone can’t read the tea leaves by now, I’m not sure what to tell you. It sucks - bad - and it’s not getting better.
Again, just my opinion. Fire away.
FedEx Corp is not in trouble. They’re doing just fine. They’re still making money, and they probably always will. The problem as it relates to this discussion is that they are trimming fat in the most capital-intensive areas of the corporation: ie the airline.
There are 600,000 FedEx employees. Less than 1% are pilots. It’s REALLY expensive to get $hit to your house on an airplane. It’s really cheap to get it there in a truck.
If anyone can’t read the tea leaves by now, I’m not sure what to tell you. It sucks - bad - and it’s not getting better.
Again, just my opinion. Fire away.
I'd be much more worried of Bobby I. than I would be here.
#338
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Dude, my opinion is worth what you paid for it, but in my eyes the plan is obvious.
FedEx Corp is not in trouble. They’re doing just fine. They’re still making money, and they probably always will. The problem as it relates to this discussion is that they are trimming fat in the most capital-intensive areas of the corporation: ie the airline.
There are 600,000 FedEx employees. Less than 1% are pilots. It’s REALLY expensive to get $hit to your house on an airplane. It’s really cheap to get it there in a truck.
If anyone can’t read the tea leaves by now, I’m not sure what to tell you. It sucks - bad - and it’s not getting better.
Again, just my opinion. Fire away.
FedEx Corp is not in trouble. They’re doing just fine. They’re still making money, and they probably always will. The problem as it relates to this discussion is that they are trimming fat in the most capital-intensive areas of the corporation: ie the airline.
There are 600,000 FedEx employees. Less than 1% are pilots. It’s REALLY expensive to get $hit to your house on an airplane. It’s really cheap to get it there in a truck.
If anyone can’t read the tea leaves by now, I’m not sure what to tell you. It sucks - bad - and it’s not getting better.
Again, just my opinion. Fire away.
While this is a great plan for controlling wage costs, one has to wonder about the dependablity and quality of such service, which is the elephant wandering around within Fedex.
#339
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Sounds like you need an email with a "thank you for your committment to safety and all that you do."
#340
We have so much *******ed stuff to fix here. I hope when I step off property for the last time I can hold my head high and know that I left it better than I found it. Not happy that I got a measly retirement bump and those behind me can fix the mess I left behind.
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