Anthrax

This place is a dumpster fire. I say this with sadness because it used to be the place to be. we the union allowed this to happen. too many short-sighted people. too much greed. too many mid pilots (at best) hired of late with top-gun complexes. this job will never be the same.

MEMA300

There are two distinct classes at this place. Line Pilots and Anything Other than Line Pilots. The Anything Other Group is doing fine. The Line Pilot has taken it in the rear on almost every efficiency gain thats been put in the CBA. Line pairing quality down the tubes. If you want to do domestic flying looks like its nites for the foreseeable future. Shorter and shorter layovers. More and more commutes. Loss of day jumpseats. Single Pilot Ops at Cruise, Etc.

Begining to feel like we are in a holding pattern for a mass wx divert. Those who usually divert and leave 1st do better than those that hold out.

JustInFacts

While I agree that our system bidding takes way too long, your assertion that WB FO's that had a bid in for 777 FO lost hundreds of thousands of dollars is overly dramatic. In the very next line, you state that the majors have a conversion date, and after 150 days, you get paid your bid hourly rate. Well, 777 FO pays the same hourly rate as all of our other WB FO's. To lose out on hundreds of thousands over 2 years, that 777 FO would have to have 41+ hours extra work every month. While there is some extra soft pay in the 777, it is nowhere near 41+ hours worth.

JustInFacts

Giving up passover pay was bad. The intent of the slot denial pay and junior activation pay was to replace pass over pay. All of the possibilities weren't thought through, and once again, we got screwed.

I disagree that we didn't gain very much control over training dates. Prior to 2015, when a bid was published, training dates were assigned. You either took your assigned date, or attempted to trade it with another pilot. If you attempted to trade it, you had to get every pilot with a date in between you and the pilot you were trading with to wave passover pay. While most did, we had a few who wouldn't. If you were senior and had something coming up soon that you couldn't miss for training, best bet was to not bid because you were probably going to training first. If you were junior, you couldn't make plans in the future because your date would change a dozen times before you went to training. Actually bidding for training dates is better IMO, however the whole process isn't what was intended.

Anomjnom12

yadda yadda yadda, the contract is garbage and convoluted just like everything else.

Tuck

oK this is just a stupid comment from an entitled pilot who hasn't done crap to earn a thing (read his past posts about how much "aboard" he is. Truth is the place does suck right now and may for quite a while and it's all due to major Company changes in system form that no amount of Union work could ever prevent. When they say they want to belly load way more freight there's not a thing any cargo outfit anywhere could do about it (feel free to take a look at how much belly freight UPS uses).

Anthrax

oh tuck, your mom says she’s sorry for dropping you on your head. multiple times. she says you just have a very droppable head.

Anthrax

Droppable Head!
the name of my new band.
nailed it!

BoilerUP

From IPA Contract 2016

1.A.7. Common Carriage Limitations

a. Common carriage within the fifty (50) United States will be in accordance with the definition of “Common carriage (within the fifty (50) United States)” contained in Article 2.
b. The “Common Carriage Weekly Aggregate Limits” set forth in paragraph c. below are maximum limits on utilization of common carriage on all scheduled service between international points (i.e. those outside of the U.S.); on flights between an international point and the
Western U.S. region; and on flights between an
international point and the Eastern U.S. region. An “international point” for purposes of this section shall include a one hundred and twenty-five (125) nautical mile radius of the international airport of departure/arrival. The “Western U.S. region” and “Eastern U.S. region” will be
determined as outlined in Article 1.D.7.e.(4) below.
c. Weekly aggregate limits between two international airports or between an international airport and a U.S. region (as described above) will be based on the Company’s frequency/utilization of common carriage service:
(1) Five (5) or less service days per week:
If the flight is 5:00 block hours or less, UPS is limited to no more than forty-five (45) containers per week when the Company utilizes any common carrier for five (5) or less service days per week. In those cases where the scheduled flight time between locations is over 5:00 block hours, the limit shall be no more than fifty (50) containers per week.
(2) Six (6) service days per week:
If the flight is 5:00 block hours or less, UPS is limited to no more than fifty-four (54) containers per week when the Company utilizes any common carrier for six (6) service days per week. In those cases where the scheduled flight time between locations is over 5:00 block hours, the limit shall be no more than sixty (60) containers per week.
(3) Seven (7) service days per week:
If the flight is 5:00 block hours or less, UPS is limited to no more than sixty-three (63) containers per week when the Company utilizes any common carrier for seven (7) service days per week. In those cases where the scheduled flight time between locations is over 5:00 block hours, the limit shall be no more than seventy (70) containers per week.

acecrackshot

The Union didn't create the conditions for multiple contract violations, management did.

The Union didn't negotiate in poor, if not bad faith for two years, management did.

The Union didn't elect to not take record profits and reinvest them back into the organization, but rather burn them in stock buybacks to pump the stock price, management did.

The Union didn't fire long time employees on no-notice, management did.

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