YellowBanana

better get your apps updated!! In all honesty, let Rajipoo and his cronies run this place into the ground.

gasnhaul

They will…

Smoked

You referring to the new hires that came here for job security, historical leading pay, work rules that provided increased soft time pay, ability to hold WB seats for an entire career, hiring for the “foreseeable future?” All the things this TA erodes?

The same FOs who now see their friends at legacies land big-league contracts with improvements across the board, insane seniority progression, 1 year NB upgrades, unlimited 200% trips, $25k/mo paychecks on the guppy, layovers in HNL, the list continues…

Those FOs? Dude, you’re in outer space if you think the 500 that can’t vote are the problem with our crew force.

Yuko

Please take a look at AlPA’s latest email. It is the one about additional QnAs. Do you notice the reasonable tone? Do you notice they talk about including spouses?

Our NO campaign is working!

it would seem as if the Union can see the present rally. It is my belief that we are near or past 50.1% of NO votes. That would be at least 2654 NOs (5806 total, 500 on probation) WELL DONE!

keep the pressure up, let us get those NOs at 75%, we need 3980 NOs

Get ready for the second onslaught of propaganda. Brute force did not work so now comes the charm. They may change their method but our pressure remains constant.

NO to depress wages
NO to Union busting pension schemes
NO to degradation of qol for less compensation for a higher revenue fleet
NO to throwing in the cold the 300 retirees who will not get any A plan improvements
NO to this concession bankruptcy style proposal

What time is it! NO is the time!

CloudSailor

Well said Yuko, I like your chant.

BlueMoon

kinda weird the only mention of furloughs have come from the union.

CloudSailor

Taking it as a good sign that this NC's Unsat attempt, TA1 is being voted Down.

We will regroup, with a new NC for a TA2 we can vote in resoundingly, as our peers at much less profitable pax carriers have done in this environment, without enduring what our ULR guys and gals did since 2015, and what most of us do, NIGHTLY.

The NC is pulling out the absolute biggest, dirtiest fear tactics from their bag. No shame.

UnusualAttitude

If you look at the current bid packs (this does not take into consideration the training left in the 23-01 bid) and look at where the FO's with 5000+ seniority numbers fall out you get the following. The amount of training needed to furlough these pilots and then displace more senior pilots to fill positions where they are vacated but needed (because furloughs would have to happen in seniority order not by overstaffed airframes individually) you begin to see the real picture. Furloughs would be very expensive considering the number of age regulated retirements in the coming years. I will be the first to acknowledge that we are overstaffed for current volume and I do foresee BLG's in the lower end of the range for some indeterminate amount of time but I do not think threatening furloughs is very realistic when you see just how spread out these junior pilots are by base/seat/equipment. If all of our most junior pilots were in the MD11 or A300 then perhaps the threat would be slightly more concerning.BOTTOM 671 as of August bid period:

BaseEquipment: Number of pilots (percentage of that seat)

MEM A300: 120 (43% of FO's)

MEM 757: 124 (46% of FO's)

EUR 757: 22 (31% of FO's)

MEM 767: 75 (14% of FO's)

IND 767: 11 (12% of FO's)

OAK 767: 65 (38% of FO's)

MEM 777: 89 (13% of FO's)

ANC 777: 35 (36% of FO's)

MEM MD11: 74 (25% of FO's)

ANC MD11: 47 (68% of FO's)

LAX MD11: 9 (16% of FO's)

globalflair

Do you actually think they care about co$t? It’s a write off dude!

kc10/c130

I actually disagree with this. Shaw and the chumps on BOD want to squeeze every dollar possible in order to maximize DIVIDEND$$$$ and say so at every opportunity.