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Old 07-06-2023, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffeepilot1
I mean us turning down a TA have anything to do with a furlough…. I 100% agree with you. I’m very against this TA
turning it down means we don’t give the company the flexibility to wetlease as much as they’d like to, which requires them to keep a higher number of us pilots around to move the same amount of freight
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Old 07-06-2023, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
turning it down means we don’t give the company the flexibility to wetlease as much as they’d like to, which requires them to keep a higher number of us pilots around to move the same amount of freight
again I agree with you I replied to the wrong comment originally. I was trying to ask the original poster what a potential furlough has to do with us voting down this TA. It’s just Fear

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Old 07-06-2023, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by middies10
We will furlough if this TA doesn't pass. Mark my words.

Couple years till you retire, huh? (Couple, few, 4 years...).
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Old 07-06-2023, 02:10 PM
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Put me down for "We won't furlough either way since we'd have to go through 4a2c first"....
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Old 07-06-2023, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by middies10
We will furlough if this TA doesn't pass. Mark my words.
ready to retire, eh?
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Old 07-06-2023, 03:09 PM
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That would be a mistake. We would pillory them for it and make them wear it like a boat anchor around their necks. Stock repurchases coming off of record profits, increasing the dividend while laying off the frontline workers who made that possible. They might be that stupid. We can only hope
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Old 07-06-2023, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by middies10
We will furlough if this TA doesn't pass. Mark my words.
This is absolute fearmongering and trying to get pilots hired since COVID to vote for this TA! Unconscionable! This TA is killing the A-plan and replacing it with a cash balance plan that fails to match Delta's contribution.

This TA is NOT in the best interest of new hires. 600-800 old pilots ARE NOT going to retire if this TA passes. FedEx will not let that happen.
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Old 07-06-2023, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
we will furlough even more if it does
Darned if you do, darned if you don’t.

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Old 07-06-2023, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Darned if you do, darned if you don’t.

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hah. Yeah. I wish I could revise that post. We aren’t going to furlough if this doesn’t pass. We might if it does, but I doubt that too, we’d probably just keep shrinking as the ACMIs show up to take our flying. But either way, I’d rather be furloughed under the current CBA than under the TA.
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Old 07-06-2023, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
hah. Yeah. I wish I could revise that post. We aren’t going to furlough if this doesn’t pass. We might if it does, but I doubt that too, we’d probably just keep shrinking as the ACMIs show up to take our flying. But either way, I’d rather be furloughed under the current CBA than under the TA.
actually if you’re furloughed under the TA, the penalty payment goes to you not the association……look it up. Under current CBA….penalty goes to Union to decide what to do with it. Under TA penalty can be up to 2.5 times Current CBA penalty…also, with TA, payrates are higher therefore penalty is higher, so under TA if you were furloughed, you’d see a lot more money, so you’d probably rather be furloughed under the TA instead of CBA… it would suck either way and hope it doesn’t happen for you…

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