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Old 04-18-2023, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaman
This is a cynical investor sentiment DRIVEN attempt to inflate the value of FDX stock. Nothing else. All the prognostication about how this will play out is FUD. These system bids are worthless. Trying to forecast your manning levels 24 months out is foolhardy. This is why no one else in the industry does it.

All these management ploys will only ever result in sugar highs for the stock. Wall Street only rewards growth and innovation. Tesla doesn't have to layoff people and play numbers games to increase the value of their stock because they're growing and innovating and their leadership (seems) competent. Their stock price has been stratospheric. Meanwhile back in Memphis.......

Don't make any decisions based on this being the future. The world didn't change in the last 6 months
It's so silly that even if I am displaced I'll be able to hold off on my new training until well after their next system bid they say they're going to have! What's the point of that?
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Old 04-18-2023, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gasnhaul
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I looked at your numbers and think I found an error. You show 75FM at 362 for Min/Max Staffing from the FCIF, but then you have 468 immediately below that in both spots. This gives a total of 5624. If you subtract out the extra 106 there you'll get back to the 5518 total I keep coming up with. And, being lazy I hadn't run the numbers in the current staffing levels, I was using the seniority number of 6009 being highest I could find so I had assumed we were 500 over manned. So if 5518 is correct (but maybe it isn't I just don't know where you got the additional numbers), then it looks like the numbers are 298 overstaffed using Min and 28 understaffed using Max.

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Thanks. I'll fix it. Not sure what happened, it's not a formula in my spreadsheet. It may have been an issue with the text to column function. I come up with the same 5518 now and the same over and under numbers.
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Old 04-18-2023, 12:37 PM
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Corrected chart. Had too many 57 FO's in Min and Max total. Still feel that jobs are safe with retirements coming.
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Old 04-18-2023, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Looking at the SAM, if they train this out then, and we lose 300 retirements (those are minimums) then we'd be 300 pilots less than we are with virtually the same amount of flying. Unless we sold airplanes our crew ratio would start to look more like it did during Covid. You're assuming they get rid of airplanes that they aren't yet planning to get rid of. That could happen or things could pick back up and we could be completely slammed and way undermanned. Either could happen.
where in this bid does it give any indication of what loads or overall freight will look like? You can’t base it on jets - we don’t even know if they will actually receive all the jets that have been ordered or how many will be parked.

we do know
- daytime sort to decrease by large amount due to postal contract changes
- CO intends to use trucks a lot more
- CO intends to use more “partner” life instead or our own jets
- PAC crossings to decrease by 30%

now add all that up and they are certainly saying they intend to greatly REDUCE the amount of freight the airline carries
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Old 04-19-2023, 05:52 PM
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Practice Bid 1 is posted.
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Old 04-19-2023, 06:18 PM
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Practice Bid 1 is posted.

what did it say?
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Old 04-19-2023, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyvsGood
what did it say?
It's a giant game of musical chairs.
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Old 04-19-2023, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffeepilot1
I think they’re about to see some serious attrition like they’ve never seen before.
Bye..............
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Old 04-19-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Bye..............
Put differently, it’s not gonna affect him ⬆️…..so why would he care?
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Old 04-19-2023, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
It's a giant game of musical chairs.
And there’s going to be some senior musicians who are about to learn they are not allowed to play.

The rules to this realignment bid will allow the company to abrogate seniority in a manner we’ve never seen before, due to the changes we allowed in the 2015 CBA

Just another example of how much we gave up by voting YES to the 2015 TA version 1.0

History will repeat itself if you/we allow it

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