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Old 04-23-2023, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Precontact
There is no dual qualification required for 757/767 although your fleets have a different flightdeck whereas UPS they are both the same.
OK, dual qual was the wrong term. We used to have both planes in the same bid pack, especially Indy. Couldn't keep everyone current. We had to have 3 legs in each every 90 days if I remember correctly. I found it strange that it wasn't a landing currency, just a leg currency
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Old 04-23-2023, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CatIIAutoLand
I have friends at Legacy airlines that are still in initial training and have better seat seniority than I will have at the conclusion of this bid. Been here 2 yrs so far. And no, I couldn't bid on this current bid, so I'm stuck in the seat I was assigned in BI. I'll be going backwards in seniority for the foreseeable future.

There may not be an exodus from the top, but I think the one from the bottom is starting to happen. With the big changes coming to our system form, our porous scope, shrinking airline, and enhanced efficiencies which reduce QOL and commutability the reasons to be here are rapidly diminishing.

I wasn't asking for an 18 mo upgrade, but I'd certainly like the option to upgrade sooner than the 10+ yrs it currently looks to be.

Read the post I replied to. If you have been here two years, you had an opportunity to bid on 21-01. Unless you are under a seat lock, you can bid in this bid as well, just maybe not the seat you want. Just three years ago, the Legacy airlines were talking furloughs. Times change. They will again.
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Old 04-23-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CatIIAutoLand
I have friends at Legacy airlines that are still in initial training and have better seat seniority than I will have at the conclusion of this bid. Been here 2 yrs so far. And no, I couldn't bid on this current bid, so I'm stuck in the seat I was assigned in BI. I'll be going backwards in seniority for the foreseeable future.

There may not be an exodus from the top, but I think the one from the bottom is starting to happen. With the big changes coming to our system form, our porous scope, shrinking airline, and enhanced efficiencies which reduce QOL and commutability the reasons to be here are rapidly diminishing.

I wasn't asking for an 18 mo upgrade, but I'd certainly like the option to upgrade sooner than the 10+ yrs it currently looks to be.
Going backward in seniority is not fun ever. It wasn’t fun when I got hired and pushed into a lower paying seat. Upgrading at over 10 years seemed like a good deal at the time. Losing 15% in my seat now at almost 17 years on property is still not fun. Timing sometimes doesn’t work in our favor. Sounds like you were hired when all of our expectations maybe got a little out of sync with historical norms. Some of your buds just a few months and a few 100 numbers senior to you will have a very different experience than you will. It’s life. Sorry..I feel that frustration. I’ve been on the backside of a hiring wave here too but in the big picture it’s not been bad. Could always be worse. In this industry if you always chase the new shiny object you’ll never be senior and that will impact your QOL and career earnings. Spend less time here on socially backward media and it will hurt less. Just my 2 cents. From one catfish to another 😜
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Old 04-23-2023, 02:09 PM
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In this industry if you always chase the new shiny object you’ll never be senior and that will impact your QOL and career earnings. Spend less time here on socially backward media and it will hurt less. Just my 2 cents. From one catfish to another 😜
Brother, this right there. Regardless of cargo, passengers, LCC or Legacy is so true and will take most pilots years to figure out. Some will spend their entire careers without grasping it. You either retire with millions or retire with millions. Spend time with your family and stop asking what if ..
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Old 04-26-2023, 04:43 PM
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What a joke Fedex airline has become. Even they don’t know WTF is going on. If I had say 3 years or less of seniority, I would dump that s**show in a heartbeat. Never in the history of Fedex has this much uncertainty happened, with so many aggressive incapable people in charge.
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Old 04-26-2023, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by VamosALaPlaya
What a joke Fedex airline has become. Even they don’t know WTF is going on. If I had say 3 years or less of seniority, I would dump that s**show in a heartbeat. Never in the history of Fedex has this much uncertainty happened, with so many aggressive incapable people in charge.
Don't worry, this is only because they took the best and brightest to work on the DRIVE initiative....
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by VamosALaPlaya
What a joke Fedex airline has become. Even they don’t know WTF is going on. If I had say 3 years or less of seniority, I would dump that s**show in a heartbeat. Never in the history of Fedex has this much uncertainty happened, with so many aggressive incapable people in charge.
Hate to agree with you. Incompetence is becoming Standard Ops all around us.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:52 PM
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Hate to agree with you. Incompetence is becoming Standard Ops all around us.
Imagine if the pilot group or maintenance was allowed to be as incompetent as the rest of the company for just one day.

Would we have any planes left?
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Old 04-26-2023, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VamosALaPlaya
What a joke Fedex airline has become. Even they don’t know WTF is going on. If I had say 3 years or less of seniority, I would dump that s**show in a heartbeat. Never in the history of Fedex has this much uncertainty happened, with so many aggressive incapable people in charge.
** Company makes literally any kind of announcement. Time to scream about it on APC! **

Have a drink or three and support our negotiating committee.
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Old 04-27-2023, 09:35 AM
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I wonder, how long past their own self-imposed deadline will it take them to execute a PRACTICE bid?

QOL issues keep mounting, and Flight Ops support seems to be quickly evaporating. Some aspects of our airline are beginning to resemble the regional airline I left two decades ago.

You know the feeling? Like death by a thousand cuts.
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