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Old 01-18-2023, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Corned Beef
It’s the same as the ‘pancake plan’ except they actually called it what it’s supposed to be called.
You mean a $hit replacement plan for our A plan that the pilots were never asked if they actually wanted - but a select group of ALPA leaders think is great since they read it in a book - that plan??
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Old 01-18-2023, 11:36 AM
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The 9-8 vote (titular “50% + 1”) just turned into 14-3.
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Old 01-18-2023, 11:55 AM
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I hear a lot of cheerleaders on the Delta AIP by a bunch of FedEx pilots who haven’t seen a single word of the agreement. We have only seen a few bullet points and NO language.

I was just informed by a couple DAL bros it only passed the union by a 9-8 vote. So if this agreement is so great, as many on APC and JetFlyers are saying, then why the nail bitter vote by the individuals who have actually seen the details?
We will stand by for your post stating that the Delta MEC voted 14-3 in favor of sending TA to membership for ratification vote.
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Old 01-18-2023, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Corned Beef
It’s the same as the ‘pancake plan’ except they actually called it what it’s supposed to be called.

From my reading that is false. The IRS says they are completely different than a hybrid plan such as the pancake plan. The formulas are much simpler than a hybrid. Google has a lot of material on the topic as well as the IRS website and PBGC.
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Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude
We will stand by for your post stating that the Delta MEC voted 14-3 in favor of sending TA to membership for ratification vote.
thats 50+1% right? Lmao
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Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude
We will stand by for your post stating that the Delta MEC voted 14-3 in favor of sending TA to membership for ratification vote.

The vote count wasn’t the main point. It was to prove that many must have found faults or “concessions”. Whether it was a concession by pulling something off the “ask list” or changing something that some found unacceptable. You can never make everyone happy. Some are always glass half empty types.

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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
The vote count wasn’t the main point. It was to prove that many must have found faults or “concessions”. Whether it was a concession by pulling something off the “ask list” or changing something that some found unacceptable. You can never make everyone happy. Some are always glass half empty types.
3 out of 17 is many. Got it….
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
3 out of 17 is many. Got it….

The vote on the DAL AIP to move to TA language was 9-8. If our MEC votes 8-7 are you then going to be in support? How about if the our MEC TA vote is 13-2?
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Old 01-19-2023, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
3 out of 17 is many. Got it….
Three DAL reps were guys like NoBrainAllDay and were concerned that "the AIP would be too costly for the company and besides, they already had a pretty good contract".
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
Three DAL reps were guys like NoBrainAllDay and were concerned that "the AIP would be too costly for the company and besides, they already had a pretty good contract".
You are stating the three no votes were concerned that the agreement was too costly to the corporation? It takes many rounds of mental masturbation to get to that perspective.

I’m going to assume the 8 no votes on the AIP and the 3 no votes on the TA thought the contract didn’t take enough from the corporation. I highly doubt they voted no, so that the negotiating committee went back in and took less money.
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