CatIIAutoLand

Close to two years here and this is exactly how I feel. I don't have a crystal ball either and that is what makes it so hard.

I wish this thread, and the many like it, would have existed before I made the leap. I followed all the threads for a long time and I don't remember anything like this before recently. I fear it's the changes of the new management team and their focus on purely stockholders that has caused the shift. Like others have said before, PSP is a joke. I don't feel it at all. I have zero loyalty to this place. It's a paycheck only. I really didn't want that to be the case but the attitude of the higher ups in management have made it that way.

Thank you. I've been fortunate enough to fly with many CA who are 6 yr or less on property and I can say that each one of them has been a pleasure to fly with. They seem to share many of the same concerns that I do. It gives me hope that because such as high percentage of our crew force has been here 6 yrs or less that we will be the driving force in demanding the company pay up for our services. I don't have faith in the majority of the crowd who's been here 15+ years. Too many company apologists. That's not speaking for the whole crowd, just a general observation. I call them the "yeah but" or the "uphill both directions in the snow while barefoot" crowd.


Me either.

My bad? Can't say I was aware that the company would take 2+ years to train out a bid. All potential new hires beware. FedEx has zero desire to ever let you change seats unless you are bidding to the left seat.



Reference my comments above. I can't tell you the number of times I've heard the "when I sat sideways on the 727" stories. GMAFB. You say it's unrealistic. We say it's the story of the times. I'd be sitting in the top 15% of the seat I left less than two years ago to come here. Yup, I made that choice. Doesn't mean I can't question if that was the best decision.

UnusualAttitude

This ignores the fact that we have pilots who have been here 5+ years that were awarded positions nearly 3 years ago who still haven’t been able to train while hundreds of new hires have been in trained into their awarded positions. The argument of “people in the past had to sit on the panel of the 727” is irrelevant. The entire section is garbage.

BluePAX

Yup. I'm one of the guys who was in that exact same position. After explaining what has happened I've had multiple captains tell me it was the biggest give back by those who voted yes in 2015.

JohnnyViper

Not trying to be argumentative or anything but if you think #1 isn't still steering the ship, you're making a huge mistake. He may have given up titles and such but I guarantee you RS, both of them, don't do anything without checking with Pop (as the southern Memphis boys would say) first. Our TA will be done the moment he decides it should be done and not one second before or after.

magic rat

He probably didn’t get the extension on is 12 day DFT trip he was hoping for, even though he had “Willing to extend” in his trip notes.

magic rat

Another thought, I used to tell interested persons who asked me about FDX, “Definitely put an app in, trust me!” Now? I flat out tell them that it’s not what it used to be and go to the PAX carriers while they are hiring, I can’t recommended FDX. I just can’t, and it’s sad, because I used to. Yes, it’s changed here.

ogarmyopar

Just sucks none of this information was out there until very recently while some of us were trying to make the most important decision of our lives. I still think it’s a good place to work but it’s far from the “the best place ever” people tried to make it out to be my best analysis is regional airline work rules with big planes. Like sitting hot reserve from 2:30am to 7:30 am in a crusty MEM sleep room?

UnusualAttitude

A combination of apathy because “it’s always been this way” and “I had to fly sideways in the 727”, head in the sand about what industry average QOL actually looks like, and pure “my airline is better than your airline” hubris.

You nailed it. I was shocked at the work rules, I take full blame for not researching more but work rules that are worse than the regionals is the reality and there is no effort to improve anything regarding these areas of the contract.

Vacation is great but after months of night hub turns you need it just to recover.

Not It

The OP was reading my mind…..

I recently started at the first Legacy to offer me a job, with the intention of jumping to FDX in 2023. I got the Purple CJO before Peak and then “the pause in hiring” email arrived. I’m happy to be in the Pool, but the delay has me evaluating options (passed UPS interview, apps in to other Legacies w/better work rules and pay).

Timing is everything. — I’m late to this 121-stuff, only have 10yrs to play before I age out. Given the industry-wide trends (hiring/retirements), it doesn’t seem like my timing is should be bad, but I’m wondering if it’s too late to be worth giving it a go with FDX.

Advice from Strangers on the internet now being accepted.

coryk

+ “I’m just happy to be here.” Ridiculous sentiments that slap meaningful change right in the face.