Buyer's remorse??
#361
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Do I understand correctly that you cannot pick up straight time? It has to come from some sort of make up bank? So I want to make extra money, and have no time in my make up bank, I can’t make additional money unless I do a trip trade that increases my credit? Can’t simply pick up a trip?
#362
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The MU restrictions are a good thing. Without it our greedy group would pick it all up at straight pay. Say goodbye to any chance of premium pay.
Better yet, let’s add credit caps like other airlines. We need to put our group through dry spin. The hooked on crack mentality would stop. Im all for it.
Better yet, let’s add credit caps like other airlines. We need to put our group through dry spin. The hooked on crack mentality would stop. Im all for it.
#363
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Joined APC: Aug 2021
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The MU restrictions are a good thing. Without it our greedy group would pick it all up at straight pay. Say goodbye to any chance of premium pay.
Better yet, let’s add credit caps like other airlines. We need to put our group through dry spin. The hooked on crack mentality would stop. Im all for it.
Better yet, let’s add credit caps like other airlines. We need to put our group through dry spin. The hooked on crack mentality would stop. Im all for it.
#364
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Do I understand correctly that you cannot pick up straight time? It has to come from some sort of make up bank? So I want to make extra money, and have no time in my make up bank, I can’t make additional money unless I do a trip trade that increases my credit? Can’t simply pick up a trip?
And who do you work for? And why do you post so much on the FedEx thread about random things?
#365
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The MU restrictions are a good thing. Without it our greedy group would pick it all up at straight pay. Say goodbye to any chance of premium pay.
Better yet, let’s add credit caps like other airlines. We need to put our group through dry spin. The hooked on crack mentality would stop. Im all for it.
Better yet, let’s add credit caps like other airlines. We need to put our group through dry spin. The hooked on crack mentality would stop. Im all for it.
1. Has management reached the limit of the amount of belly freight they can put on passenger airlines?
2. Has management reached the limit of outsourced flying, the kind that is currently happening with Altas?
3. Do we have any crew compliment restrictions that would not allow FedEx to operate aircraft with less than 2 pilots?
4. Has delta reached the limit of their outsourced RJ flying?
5. Does the delta TA increase restrictions on RJ flying?
6. Does the delta global scope LOA put limits on their international WB flying?
7. Does delta have two pilot restrictions in their scope language?
#366
So are you going to answer my questions from earlier in this thread? Or are you going to keep ignoring them? The questions about scope since you said delta’s is better.
1. Has management reached the limit of the amount of belly freight they can put on passenger airlines?
2. Has management reached the limit of outsourced flying, the kind that is currently happening with Altas?
3. Do we have any crew compliment restrictions that would not allow FedEx to operate aircraft with less than 2 pilots?
4. Has delta reached the limit of their outsourced RJ flying?
5. Does the delta TA increase restrictions on RJ flying?
6. Does the delta global scope LOA put limits on their international WB flying?
7. Does delta have two pilot restrictions in their scope language?
1. Has management reached the limit of the amount of belly freight they can put on passenger airlines?
2. Has management reached the limit of outsourced flying, the kind that is currently happening with Altas?
3. Do we have any crew compliment restrictions that would not allow FedEx to operate aircraft with less than 2 pilots?
4. Has delta reached the limit of their outsourced RJ flying?
5. Does the delta TA increase restrictions on RJ flying?
6. Does the delta global scope LOA put limits on their international WB flying?
7. Does delta have two pilot restrictions in their scope language?
#367
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#368
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So are you going to answer my questions from earlier in this thread? Or are you going to keep ignoring them? The questions about scope since you said delta’s is better.
1. Has management reached the limit of the amount of belly freight they can put on passenger airlines?
2. Has management reached the limit of outsourced flying, the kind that is currently happening with Altas?
3. Do we have any crew compliment restrictions that would not allow FedEx to operate aircraft with less than 2 pilots?
4. Has delta reached the limit of their outsourced RJ flying?
5. Does the delta TA increase restrictions on RJ flying?
6. Does the delta global scope LOA put limits on their international WB flying?
7. Does delta have two pilot restrictions in their scope language?
1. Has management reached the limit of the amount of belly freight they can put on passenger airlines?
2. Has management reached the limit of outsourced flying, the kind that is currently happening with Altas?
3. Do we have any crew compliment restrictions that would not allow FedEx to operate aircraft with less than 2 pilots?
4. Has delta reached the limit of their outsourced RJ flying?
5. Does the delta TA increase restrictions on RJ flying?
6. Does the delta global scope LOA put limits on their international WB flying?
7. Does delta have two pilot restrictions in their scope language?
We have augmented rules. Tighter language in this section would be nice to say on the flight deck. Belly freight isn’t a reliable model due to it fluctuations with availability. It’s supplemental at best.
Delta has horrible scope. History supports this. UA and AA aren’t far behind. The proliferation of the regional airlines and codeshare proves this.
Making marginal improvements on terrible language isn’t a huge win. Much like painting a Miata red doesn’t make it a sports car
#370
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If Delta had a penalty payment the regional model would collapse. That is the value of our scope. Less than 10 airplanes for about a year cost the FedEx Corp over 20 million in just penalty payments. Do the math on a larger Delta regional model scale. Then apply it to the “normal Delta” international routes they lost to codesharing.
We have augmented rules. Tighter language in this section would be nice to say on the flight deck. Belly freight isn’t a reliable model due to it fluctuations with availability. It’s supplemental at best.
Delta has horrible scope. History supports this. UA and AA aren’t far behind. The proliferation of the regional airlines and codeshare proves this.
Making marginal improvements on terrible language isn’t a huge win. Much like painting a Miata red doesn’t make it a sports car
We have augmented rules. Tighter language in this section would be nice to say on the flight deck. Belly freight isn’t a reliable model due to it fluctuations with availability. It’s supplemental at best.
Delta has horrible scope. History supports this. UA and AA aren’t far behind. The proliferation of the regional airlines and codeshare proves this.
Making marginal improvements on terrible language isn’t a huge win. Much like painting a Miata red doesn’t make it a sports car
Delta has reached all the limits of their scope. They cannot operate anymore large RJs than what they have. And they are closing the small RJ loophole so they’ll be at that limit as well.. Their RJ scope has been so successful they have gone from operating about 500 RJs to removing about 200 of that and instead buying 717s and A220s their pilots operate. The trend is positive. UAL’s RJ scope mirrors delta’s. After the global scope is ratified delta will no longer be able to completely outsource to JVs. Delta has language requiring TWO pilots on their aircraft. We don’t have ANY limits. There is no limits on the amount of pilots required on our aircraft. There is no limits to belly freight. There is no limits to wet leasing. There is no limits to ASL continuing to do the flying we were doing or any other operator doing the flying we do internationally.
If you want to point to a comparable scope section to compares us to it would be Alaska’s scope before they ratified their current contract.
You can say delta scope is bad. But the fact remains that whatever you call it, our is worse because we have NO limits on ours. They do.
Last edited by FXLAX; 01-29-2023 at 05:50 PM. Reason: Clarity
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