Originally Posted by chanandlerbong

Yes, WHERE was this information over the last 6-12 months? Leaving the military, I sought out FedEx for a long time. It wasn't some COVID-inspired dream; I was led to believe that this was THE place to be. My experience has been "good" overall so far, but the hype died down very quickly. I'm open to the idea that the company's behavior could be motivated by contract negotiations, but "never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity" -- this company seems like it has no idea what to do now.

I read the archives of the FedEx (and UPS...and all the legacy carriers) forums all the way back to just after the '08 meltdown before interviewing (and talked to many friends, and looked at non-APC sources), and though it was made clear that no airline is perfect and that FedEx has the standard cargo operator drawbacks, the terrible work rules (things that go beyond just "reserve is bad"), odd pay system (other posters have talked about this enough), and all the other little details were never mentioned...and believe me, I asked. Do guys here just want everyone to think that they have the most coveted job in the industry? When we're having guys in BI get their assignments changed with no notice, and when we're still interviewing when the writing is on the wall that these guys/gals will be swimming in the pool for (potentially) a LONG time, it just shows that someone doesn't have their act together.

So, as a junior guy whose family is ~3-4 hrs from NYC (but we'll never live close enough to NYC to drive...closer to Boston...not moving) and who also turned down DAL to be here (ouch), what's the best move? Ride this thing out, go to UAL/AA, beg DAL for another interview (yeah right), go to JB just so I can drive? Yeah, I get it, I'm just asking a bunch of random people on the internet for advice, but now that people are finally being honest about FDX (and no one anywhere else is, even to this day), I at least have to ask.


I don't hate it here, and I'd much rather stay vs starting all over again, but I feel compelled to ask. There are probably others out there who do too. Fire away. There's no harm in someone calling you an idiot on the internet...you might just get some good advice along the way.

Originally Posted by Corned Beef

Whys that? Head buried too far in the sand to acknowledge any truth that may be in his post? You'll fit in here perfectly!

Originally Posted by pwdrhound

I think if you are less than 40yrs old with 2 yrs or less on the property here, you'd be nuts not to look at your options elsewhere. This place has degraded so much over the last 25 years and it has really become painfully obvious by the mere fact that things have improved so dramatically across the board in the industry as a whole. Those of us that have been here for 20, 25, or 30 years are committed and going down with the ship in hope that things will get better, but it's painfully obvious management could give a rats ass about the pilots, the backbone of this company. The old timers that are here and still think this place is the best thing since sliced bread are slowly becoming extinct. The youngsters here have options, they can bail off the sinking ship...

Originally Posted by Jma313

not at all..there were just a few statements in that post that were factually incorrect and fears based entirely on perception rather than fact. Just know that any affecting us will affect pax carriers worse.

Originally Posted by WearyEyed

They can and they will. I’ve spoken to several that think that furloughs are a thing of the past given what happened at the majors during Covid. They are likely wrong in their thinking, but maybe not. The 2008 recession showed the government was willing to bail out industries (auto) and then at the next sign of trouble they stepped in and saved corporations from failing and laying off millions (pilots included). There’s no reason to believe that they couldn’t or wouldn’t do it again. If pilots are too critical to allow to strike then they MIGHT be too critical to allow furloughs.

Our negotiations committee chair said that he didn’t negotiate single pilot ops scope protection so if the FAA approves the A350 or some other plane or modification for single pilot ops in the next 6 years you better believe that FedEx will aggressively update its fleet while dragging out any future contract negotiations to furlough half the pilot group. A huge upfront cost will save the corporation tons of money in the long run. Young guys see our union failing and will simply leave if their jobs and QOL aren’t protected and they aren’t properly compensated for it.

Originally Posted by Jma313

not at all..there were just a few statements in that post that were factually incorrect and fears based entirely on perception rather than fact. I’m sorry this person didn’t make the best choice for HIMSELF. If you do not like it here apply and interview elsewhere and leave. Just know that any affecting us will affect pax carriers worse.

Originally Posted by ogarmyopar

And don’t give me that go somewhere else 3hit. Many of us were already somewhere else and came here when everyone and their moms convinced us it was the best place going. 2 airline indocs, training, and probation in one year I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. Now you’re suggesting leave and go for round 3 because you can’t admit your holier than now homegrown airline actually sucks compared to a lot of good flying jobs out there. I understand seniority and that should mean something but it shouldn’t be an awful job for junior pilots and this incredible deal for the senior or those lucky enough to have a 9x seniority number and never see the bs domestic side of this place.