Search

Notices

Buyer's remorse??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-22-2023, 10:42 AM
  #241  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 752
Default

Originally Posted by Pilotguy21
Hot take but reserve is awesome if you live in Memphis. If I’m the company, I’d incentivize living in Memphis/domicile by not improving reserve rules.
I’ll disagree with this. It may be awesome now for fleets that are not 767/777. But the last three years were not awesome. I just did a spreadsheet for last year and I had a utilization rate of 81%.

Maybe you’re thinking of times like now where block hours are down, but the last few years have highlighted how bad reserve is. And I live in Memphis. Reserve was by seniority, not by choice.

My wife commented on the home life being impacted by the volatility during COVID versus now.
NotMrNiceGuy is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 11:28 AM
  #242  
Gets Weekends Off
 
trashhauler's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: B-777
Posts: 455
Default

Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
I’ll disagree with this. It may be awesome now for fleets that are not 767/777. But the last three years were not awesome. I just did a spreadsheet for last year and I had a utilization rate of 81%.

Maybe you’re thinking of times like now where block hours are down, but the last few years have highlighted how bad reserve is. And I live in Memphis. Reserve was by seniority, not by choice.

My wife commented on the home life being impacted by the volatility during COVID versus now.
Newsflash Not, COVID sucked for everyone! I was a line holder and with multiple revisions, extensions, lockdowns, rule changes, etc. life was miserable and seniority meant nothing. So I would say using the last 3 years as an example for anything is probably not the best. I’m not saying we shouldn’t look for improvements anywhere we can, but let’s not use the last 3 years for comparison as to what is normal.
trashhauler is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 11:45 AM
  #243  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 36
Default

I think it was worse for reserves. All those revisions / extensions earned line holders quite a bit of additional pay. Reserve holders only got hours toward RLG. RLG accrual sometimes comes with extra days off and sometimes (rarely) extra pay.

You can proffer or giveaway trips, you can only drop (ha) reserve.

Lastly, I sat a lot of reserve in 2019. It sucked. It needs improved.

Originally Posted by trashhauler
Newsflash Not, COVID sucked for everyone! I was a line holder and with multiple revisions, extensions, lockdowns, rule changes, etc. life was miserable and seniority meant nothing. So I would say using the last 3 years as an example for anything is probably not the best. I’m not saying we shouldn’t look for improvements anywhere we can, but let’s not use the last 3 years for comparison as to what is normal.
zmoney is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 11:46 AM
  #244  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 752
Default

Originally Posted by trashhauler
Newsflash Not, COVID sucked for everyone! I was a line holder and with multiple revisions, extensions, lockdowns, rule changes, etc. life was miserable and seniority meant nothing. So I would say using the last 3 years as an example for anything is probably not the best. I’m not saying we shouldn’t look for improvements anywhere we can, but let’s not use the last 3 years for comparison as to what is normal.
I don’t disagree. I just think the last three years showed how the system can be abused and I think we should learn for that to prevent it from happening again.

I want reserve to be an option for everyone throughout the seniority list based on their needs. For their entire career. Sometimes reserve makes sense for vacation months, training months, holidays, etc. It shouldn’t have to a seventh circle of hell or relegated to the ultra junior.

I don’t have to do reserve anymore. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be better than what it is.
NotMrNiceGuy is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 12:28 PM
  #245  
Fill'er Up Again
 
FrankTheTank's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Scarebus Captain
Posts: 1,090
Default

Originally Posted by FXLAX
Of course pay rates and benefits are better here. As it should be, along with EVERYTHING else compared to a regional. So you GMAFB! Why do you insist on incessantly repeating management talking points? At least you didn’t repeat the other talking point about giving things up to get other things…
Cause he ain’t a line pilot…. He knows just enough to sound like he has a clue but he proves time and time again, he is clueless.. I don’t know if he is a Pro or manager or what but he ain’t on the line!
FrankTheTank is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 12:34 PM
  #246  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,838
Default

Originally Posted by FrankTheTank
Cause he ain’t a line pilot…. He knows just enough to sound like he has a clue but he proves time and time again, he is clueless.. I don’t know if he is a Pro or manager or what but he ain’t on the line!

Once again, incorrect assumptions. I have numerous buds who live in Memphis and they brag about never getting used on reserve pre Covid and now once again. I commuted to reserve at the start of my career. I dropped and traded R-days. Contingency dropped for deadhead trips. Many do drop for draft off reserve days.

Improving reserve with small changes would be great. Let’s start with eliminating the last minute HSBY periods that magically appear in open time. The contract openers have something in it regarding eliminating HSBY.

As others have pointed out you can’t use Covid period as a data point for drafting an entire section of a contract.
Noworkallplay is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 12:39 PM
  #247  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 814
Default

Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
Once again, incorrect assumptions. I have numerous buds who live in Memphis and they brag about never getting used on reserve pre Covid and now once again. I commuted to reserve at the start of my career. I dropped and traded R-days. Contingency dropped for deadhead trips. Many do drop for draft off reserve days.


Theoretical at best. The fact of the matter is that we have the worst reserve system in the industry.
UnusualAttitude is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 12:41 PM
  #248  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,838
Default

Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude
Theoretical at best. The fact of the matter is that we have the worst reserve system in the industry.
Not theoretical at all. I did it quite frequently, as well as many other commuters. Some of my buds are on overstaffed fleets, and they are never getting used again. Beings they live in base they say it is like a vacation again.
Noworkallplay is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 12:42 PM
  #249  
Gets Weekends Off
 
BluePAX's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 386
Default

Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude
Theoretical at best. The fact of the matter is that we have the worst reserve system in the industry.
Please don't quote this clown. He isn't a pilot here. His post you quoted even further proves that. We cannot "trade R days". I have tried on two occasions to swap with another pilot. It's not an option in VIPS, and scheduling won't do it.
BluePAX is offline  
Old 01-22-2023, 12:49 PM
  #250  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,838
Default

Originally Posted by BluePAX
Please don't quote this clown. He isn't a pilot here. His post you quoted even further proves that. We cannot "trade R days". I have tried on two occasions to swap with another pilot. It's not an option in VIPS, and scheduling won't do it.
I am talking about moving reserve days. Swapping one day for another. I did it numerous times. I have even traded my reserve days for another buddies trip. He lived in base and didn’t wanna fly. It sounds like you need to go into Vips and start learning.
Noworkallplay is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
flyprdu
Alaska
455
10-18-2022 10:54 PM
ClutchCargo
Leaving the Career
1133
12-02-2013 09:26 PM
Duksrule
Hangar Talk
3
06-05-2008 12:50 PM
Gordon C
Major
0
01-31-2006 09:37 PM
SWAjet
Major
1
06-13-2005 07:56 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices