Noworkallplay

I couldn’t agree more unfortunately. This pilot group is self centered, greedy and thinks of themselves as subcontractors in this industry.

Merle Haggard

We are 1% of the FDX workforce. Incremental improvements to our contract are not going to be the determining factor in FDX's success or failure.

Our work is our work and what they do with the product is their business. What they do with it does not change it's value. I don't get a discount on a new car if I tell them I plan to run it into the ground - it costs what it costs.

We need to proceed without regard for "the news".

Noworkallplay

I agree however it will take a fight to get it. We have shown no fight even though the general is yelling from the top of the mountain CHARGE for months and months on end. Now the draft and AVA are drying up. The soldiers failed again.

Merle Haggard

NoWorkAllPlay-

I have no idea what your thoughts on this are because you have been on my ignore list for about six months.

Feels good. Pretty much nobody is interested in your opinion. For all I know, you may have agreed with me - I still don't care.

C2078

FDX has contractual language that it is not fully exploiting, unlike Brown management. In fact, Brown management did not use to fully exploit scheduling language either, until it did a couple of years ago. They have gotten very efficient. FDX has not. That is my point. One small example, we used to have little to none ferry/empty/reposition flights. If you hear a UPS 9000 flight, that is a repo, our domestic bid packs are full with them now, while costing more to operate empty planes, they have gained enormous flexibility and efficiency. Our planes sit very little during the day like they used to. This has also allowed the company to reduce the amount of CML DH and squeeze way more out of their crews. Not good for us, but you get my point. I see the FDX bid packs almost every month, that level of efficiency is simply not there, and no, not all your scheduling rules protect you from this, there is a lot FDX isn’t optimizing yet.

NotMrNiceGuy

We have those repo flights. However, they don’t necessarily have a special number to indicate them. I’ve done a couple from ORD-IND in the last month. Did another from JFK-ABE. They’re not exactly rare either. I would also say that I’m surprised at how high aircraft utilization there is at FedEx. Rarely do planes just sit there all day like they used to. Even ATW doesn’t just sit there all day.

An example of the schedule for that particular route:

MORNING SORT
MEM-MSN 0300 DEPARTURE
MSN-ATW
ATW-MKE
MKE-MEM 1100 ARRIVAL
AFTERNOON SORT
MEM-FAR 1400 DEPARTURE
FAR-ATW
ATW-MSN
MSN-MEM 2330 ARRIVAL

This is just one example, but it’s not anecdotal. This is more the rule than the exception. The percentage of daytime flying is high and it’s just the nature of the beast that the planes must move to accommodate the freight schedule. BFM goes back through ATL. BIL turns back through OKC. Unless you have a particular city pairing you are referring to, I think your overarching analysis is just too broad. The aircraft are being utilized.

Now if you’re referring to crew utilization, that may be another story. I do often hear of UPS crews operating three or four legs a night. I’ve been on the 75 and the Bus, and they do exist. I think there is one four legged on the Bus right now through MSN-ATW. Maybe ten or so three leggers. The 75 has more, but likely less than 20% of the flying. Can’t think of any four leg nights on the 75. Personally, I think the fatigue calls would substantially increase if you’re doing three or more consecutive three or four leg nights. So I’ll give you the night crew utilization may be higher at UPS. But that also leads to more fatiguing schedules which should be leading to more fatigue calls.

CFIGUY22

When asked a question during the earnings call pilot furloughs we’re brought up, raj jumped in after the question wasn’t answered by one of the other execs saying “and just to be clear the question about pilot furloughs, that’s not even a thing”

BrulesRulez

As of this week, we will still be hiring next year. Not as many as this year but will continue.

ComingInHot

That's good to hear! Thanks

C2078

I doubt any airline will be furloughing any pilots within the next 10 years. Retirements will take care of that issue. Hiring slowdown if anything.