Emmerson Bigs

YGBSM!!
You go from this:
Where you basically say it's okay for someone's legitimate seniority to be abrogated because of someone else's choice.
Then you flip flop when it negatively affects you with this:
YOUR choice has consequences. Wahh. The union actually got your more than the contract currently allows. At least you're pay protected for the R-days which is more than 26.M of the CBA requires. In my opinion, the only reason the company agreed to that was they are undermanned and couldn't actually take the hard line on 26.M and lose the manpower each month. Ask to transfer to an aircraft/base that won't be affected by that choice. I didn't get vaxxed either. I don't feel entitled to be able to bid for trips I can't fly or hold equipment or a base that flies almost 100% international where several (and more coming) countries require the shot. I'll be a domestic pilot because I can't or won't maintain the credentials necessary to fly to countries in some bid packs/bases.
But someone who has chosen to maintain all required qualifications and has the seniority to avoid certain locations shouldn't be forced to go to those locations because others junior to them chose not to get vaxxed. Trying to equate someone senior reporting their status to you who chose not to is a joke. Especially when you turn around one post later and actually complain about the natural consequences of your choice which has nothing to do with seniority.

Emmerson Bigs

You go from this:
Where you basically say it's okay for someone's legitimate seniority to be abrogated because of someone else's choice.
Then you flip flop when it negatively affects you with this:
YOUR choice has consequences. Wahh. The union actually got your more than the contract currently allows. At least you're pay protected for the R-days which is more than 26.M of the CBA requires. In my opinion, the only reason the company agreed to that was they are undermanned and couldn't actually take the hard line on 26.M and lose the manpower each month. Ask to transfer to an aircraft/base that won't be affected by that choice. I didn't get vaxxed either. I don't feel entitled to be able to bid for trips I can't fly or hold equipment or a base that flies almost 100% international where several (and more coming) countries require the shot. I'll be a domestic pilot because I can't or won't maintain the credentials necessary to fly to countries in some bid packs/bases.
But someone who has chosen to maintain all required qualifications and has the seniority to avoid certain locations shouldn't be forced to go to those locations because others junior to them chose not to get vaxxed. Trying to equate someone senior reporting their status to you who chose not to is a joke. Especially when you turn around one post later and actually complain about the natural consequences of your choice which has nothing to do with seniority.

HvypurplePylot

Yet another shining example of why it's a good thing you weren't elected.

TonyC

Neither R-Days nor makeup are pay. You cannot pay for food, gas, or shelter with R days. You cannot pay for popcorn, bubblegum, or movie tickets with makeup.

They give you the opportunity to work, on your days off, for compensation at straight time (makeup) OR LESS (R-days). What's so special about that?






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abides

I see nobody is interested in a viable solution, they would rather continue arguing irrelevant points. Carry on flight coordinators.

BrianH

A solution might be, thinking outside of the box.

I would be glad to discuss the plusses and minuses.

One thought might be; If you are inverse assigned to this or any SIBA due to no junior pilots be assignable due to covid or any other reason like they were never given MD-10 training, you would get RAT pay. My thinking, you were "reassigned" due to no fault of your own.


How about something like that for an option?

hoya saxa

If you had the option to decline the RAT assignment as you normally do, then maybe.


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DirtyPurple

Looks like the practice bid went quite junior...only 22% Capt and 32% FO volunteered for it. Everyone else is an unwilling participant. Is that how these have gone in the past for aircraft phase outs? Or is it the "choice" flying locations that made it go junior?

HvypurplePylot

I'm curious if unvaxxed got inversed. I know a buddy who is on high mins got inversed which was also one of the bid restrictions.

Herkguy80

The SIBA bid results are actually a HIPPA violation if you think about it. You can easily parse the list with our bidpack and see who got "skipped" for being unvaccinated. Add that to the grievance...