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01-14-2022, 06:41 AM
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01-14-2022, 01:13 PM
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01-14-2022, 02:01 PM
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I understand what you are saying. But none of our work rules have a clause in them that make them different when in negotiations, which I’m all for by the way. In general, this is a bad work rule. It would be better if we were pay protected at straight pay for any trip once it’s on our calendar if it’s removed at no fault of the pilot.
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01-14-2022, 06:48 PM
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I understand what you are saying. But none of our work rules have a clause in them that make them different when in negotiations, which I’m all for by the way. In general, this is a bad work rule. It would be better if we were pay protected at straight pay for any trip once it’s on our calendar if it’s removed at no fault of the pilot.
Now on the COVID rules - yep absolutely - CO should be guaranteeing all trips at assignment if removed for COVID positive...and close contacts while on a trip.
01-14-2022, 07:09 PM
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I wish we held guarantee for all trips at assignment and not at block out like we do on the premium pay trips. But it is something you know ahead of time. If you want the guarantee fly your schedule.
Now on the COVID rules - yep absolutely - CO should be guaranteeing all trips at assignment if removed for COVID positive...and close contacts while on a trip.
Now on the COVID rules - yep absolutely - CO should be guaranteeing all trips at assignment if removed for COVID positive...and close contacts while on a trip.
How about rules that incentivize those who fly there line and don't chase money. Lets get paid more for what we do, not have to work harder for it.
01-14-2022, 07:22 PM
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I wish we held guarantee for all trips at assignment and not at block out like we do on the premium pay trips. But it is something you know ahead of time. If you want the guarantee fly your schedule.
Now on the COVID rules - yep absolutely - CO should be guaranteeing all trips at assignment if removed for COVID positive...and close contacts while on a trip.
Now on the COVID rules - yep absolutely - CO should be guaranteeing all trips at assignment if removed for COVID positive...and close contacts while on a trip.
Really? Is that the excuse you are going to make? We know all work rules ahead of time. That doesn’t mean they can’t or shouldn’t be improved. Otherwise one can use that excuse for not making anything better. Well you knew ahead of time what the rules or so we should event change the rules…
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01-14-2022, 07:25 PM
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Would this not be rewarding those who do drop and draft? Unintended consequences? Like many have pointed out, do rules like these incentivize those to work harder and for more money? Look at the notorious group doing draft. They don't just do 10 days of it a month. They do 20+ days a month.
How about rules that incentivize those who fly there line and don't chase money. Lets get paid more for what we do, not have to work harder for it.
How about rules that incentivize those who fly there line and don't chase money. Lets get paid more for what we do, not have to work harder for it.
Draft, AVA, picking up open time, voluntary extensions, selling vacation, etc all incentivize that. Are you against all those rules and others as well? What we should negotiate is to turn those things off when we enter section 6.
01-14-2022, 07:27 PM
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