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Old 02-21-2022, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunnysky
No sorry this is incorrect. ALL KNOWN FLYING SHALL BE IN THE BIDPACK. That is the basic rule of the SIG. Business necessity jumpseats are post bidback. The entire point of the MOU was to get op jumpseats in the bidpack. They want it and need the MOU. Now what would they do if we cancelled it? Who knows - maybe still schedule and force us to grieve or sue (minor vs major grievance) - I'm having a hard time seeing the upside to the Company if they did that though. If it were as simple as you say then they never would have offered it in the first place as they are clearly losing a lot of money by the non reducable deviation bank.

Ask you rep on this one as well.
Incorrect, all known flying must be in trips, but not all trip are in the bidpack. Ask your sig friends.

As for the rest, thinking the ALPA lawyers would file anything gave me a good laugh. ALPA cares about dues-able income.

But then again, they could prove me wrong, anything is possible.
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Old 02-21-2022, 08:06 PM
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Incorrect, all known flying must be in trips, but not all trip are in the bidpack. Ask your sig friends.

As for the rest, thinking the ALPA lawyers would file anything gave me a good laugh. ALPA cares about dues-able income.

But then again, they could prove me wrong, anything is possible.
For the amount of money we give each month to this “association” we are seriously unrepresented.
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Old 02-21-2022, 10:07 PM
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I've been hearing about ALPA's "profit motive" for years.

Anybody know how to buy stock?
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Old 02-21-2022, 10:13 PM
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I've been hearing about ALPA's "profit motive" for years.

Anybody know how to buy stock?
It automatically comes out of your check once a month.

Oh, and if you don't want to buy it, you get fired.
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Old 02-22-2022, 08:09 AM
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I have to give our local ALPA folks props for how they have managed financing. On one of the recent calls or comms they stated they have 3 times more money in the bank than they anticipated to have at this point. This is substantially better than last round of negotiations.
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Old 02-22-2022, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by noworkallplay
i have to give our local alpa folks props for how they have managed financing. On one of the recent calls or comms they stated they have 3 times more money in the bank than they anticipated to have at this point. This is substantially better than last round of negotiations.
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Old 02-22-2022, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
I have to give our local ALPA folks props for how they have managed financing. On one of the recent calls or comms they stated they have 3 times more money in the bank than they anticipated to have at this point. This is substantially better than last round of negotiations.
That is out and out false.


Show me any historical projection from the last five years that shows your assertion. Please.

You should also ask to see is where the money is going. Start with FPL and get back to us.
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Originally Posted by BrianH
That is out and out false.


Show me any historical projection from the last five years that shows your assertion. Please.

You should also ask to see is where the money is going. Start with FPL and get back to us.
0 x 3, math checks out.
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Old 02-22-2022, 11:17 AM
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They've already started wasting money on "family awareness" parties.

Just send us an email. We don't need to spend dues money on booze to promote the pancake plan.
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Old 02-22-2022, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
I have to give our local ALPA folks props for how they have managed financing. On one of the recent calls or comms they stated they have 3 times more money in the bank than they anticipated to have at this point. This is substantially better than last round of negotiations.
No doubt. They've done a good job with the money - of course a lot of that was due to COVID making all meetings remote and severely restricting the ability of committees to use money. The problem here is though we aren't a bank - we save to use money during negotiating and we should be using that money now. Money alone only provides the ability to hire extra people or keep your team in negotiations on full time FPL for a long time - it doesn't really help elsewhere. I'd like to see us use that money - that's what it's for. It'd be one thing if we were doing a lot but it appears like we are doing very little.
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