Vaccination status
12-22-2021, 01:31 PM
#141
Aspiring PSA Captain
Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 867
Often, additional job requirements result in additional compensation. Not an exceptionally rare relationship.
12-22-2021, 01:39 PM
#142
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 95
Fcif doesn’t line up with title 14 although it claims to...
- “Additionally, because Title 14 prohibits private employers from compelling employees or applicants to provide proof of vaccination, you may still ask employees and applicants to voluntarily provide proof of vaccination. Title 14, however, states that employers may not take adverse action if an applicant or employee refuses to provide proof of vaccination for any reason.”
This doesn’t sound like Voluntarily requesting vax status.
- NQN footprint is adverse action for compensation ability. TN Title 14 “Adverse action" means to:
(A) Discriminate against a person by denying the person employment, credit, insurance, access, products, services, or other benefits; or
(B) Discharge, threaten, or otherwise discriminate against an employee in any manner that affects the employee's employment, including compensation, terms, conditions, locations, rights, immunities, promotions, or privileges
Some legit objections possible to be sure.
- “Additionally, because Title 14 prohibits private employers from compelling employees or applicants to provide proof of vaccination, you may still ask employees and applicants to voluntarily provide proof of vaccination. Title 14, however, states that employers may not take adverse action if an applicant or employee refuses to provide proof of vaccination for any reason.”
This doesn’t sound like Voluntarily requesting vax status.
- NQN footprint is adverse action for compensation ability. TN Title 14 “Adverse action" means to:
(A) Discriminate against a person by denying the person employment, credit, insurance, access, products, services, or other benefits; or
(B) Discharge, threaten, or otherwise discriminate against an employee in any manner that affects the employee's employment, including compensation, terms, conditions, locations, rights, immunities, promotions, or privileges
Some legit objections possible to be sure.
12-22-2021, 02:15 PM
#143
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Crewmember
Posts: 1,395
It's time some of that money flowed in our direction.
Yes, it is about schedules, but other airline pilot groups have been paid to be vaccinated, why not us?
Yes, I know they are not paying us to be vaccinated, but they should pay for the knowledge as well.
The scheduling aspect is also important because seniority will be greatly distorted by some who will not have to fly to certain places, and others who have to pick up the slack will be harmed.
12-22-2021, 05:28 PM
#146
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,838
Fcif doesn’t line up with title 14 although it claims to...
- “Additionally, because Title 14 prohibits private employers from compelling employees or applicants to provide proof of vaccination, you may still ask employees and applicants to voluntarily provide proof of vaccination. Title 14, however, states that employers may not take adverse action if an applicant or employee refuses to provide proof of vaccination for any reason.”
This doesn’t sound like Voluntarily requesting vax status.
- NQN footprint is adverse action for compensation ability. TN Title 14 “Adverse action" means to:
(A) Discriminate against a person by denying the person employment, credit, insurance, access, products, services, or other benefits; or
(B) Discharge, threaten, or otherwise discriminate against an employee in any manner that affects the employee's employment, including compensation, terms, conditions, locations, rights, immunities, promotions, or privileges
Some legit objections possible to be sure.
- “Additionally, because Title 14 prohibits private employers from compelling employees or applicants to provide proof of vaccination, you may still ask employees and applicants to voluntarily provide proof of vaccination. Title 14, however, states that employers may not take adverse action if an applicant or employee refuses to provide proof of vaccination for any reason.”
This doesn’t sound like Voluntarily requesting vax status.
- NQN footprint is adverse action for compensation ability. TN Title 14 “Adverse action" means to:
(A) Discriminate against a person by denying the person employment, credit, insurance, access, products, services, or other benefits; or
(B) Discharge, threaten, or otherwise discriminate against an employee in any manner that affects the employee's employment, including compensation, terms, conditions, locations, rights, immunities, promotions, or privileges
Some legit objections possible to be sure.
12-22-2021, 05:39 PM
#147
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: 777 Captain in Training
Posts: 1,457
(a) In order to ensure the continuation of business, governmental, and school operations in the midst of rapidly changing federal regulation of these operations, a class of entities may be temporarily exempt from complying with any provision of this title when such an exemption is necessary to conform to federal law, rules, or regulations as a condition to receipt of federal funds.
I thought a stay was put in to effect regarding the validity of the order for the federal mandate,
12-22-2021, 06:03 PM
#148
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 95
You are correct thank you for thinking critically. The management stooge with multiple logins cannot comprehend these basic facts as well as you can so I appreciate you explaining it for me.
12-22-2021, 09:52 PM
#149
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,236
The new Fcif is a nice compromise. If yall think you'll get paid to sit at home while the vaccinated pilots fly all the cargo you're mistaken. The 777 probably won't be able to avoid vaccination but the other fleets probably will. I do think FedEx would rather not mandate it if they don't have to.
Supreme Court schedules January 7 oral arguments in challenges to Biden vaccine mandates (msn.com)
12-23-2021, 01:04 AM
#150
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 777 FO
Posts: 34
Several thousand have voluntarily submitted their vaccination status 😳
We just don’t get it; we should collectively be doing everything we can to make life more difficult for management during contract negotiations!
I’ve been told you can delete your vaccination status if you change your mind.
We can’t all be in substitution!
We just don’t get it; we should collectively be doing everything we can to make life more difficult for management during contract negotiations!
I’ve been told you can delete your vaccination status if you change your mind.
We can’t all be in substitution!
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